By Anonymous - 19/01/2015 23:58
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But they ask you to do something like that precisely to test how well you know the road rules. It wouldn't help anyone if they took it out. Ofcourse it's unfortunate that OP wasn't aware of the fact, buy to be honest I'm surprised he wasn't. Well, better luck (and a better understanding of the rules) next time. :)
Why would he let you take an illegal turn, or even suggest it in the first place? Sounds to me like someone has to reread their job description
I took my test in MN about an hour and a half away from home. I wasn't familiar with the roads and it made it a lot more challenging. For example, one road I drove on didn't have a speed limit posted in the stretch that I was on. The cars around me were going 45, so I played it safe and went 34. The speed limit was actually 30. If I had gone 35 I would have failed. I probably should have asked the instructor what the speed limit was, but, like others have been saying, the nerves got to me.
I took my driver's exam in 2009 in California. They did state that they will ask me to demonstrate what they ask, ONLY if it is safe to do so. They can ask you to do things that are seemingly misguided. It's up to the driver if they feel it's safe given the surroundings.
Most states, you can only ask your test driver to confirm instructions, so that wouldn't have worked. Also, national law states that all roads must have speed signs posted every 1/2 mile if they are not the "standard speed." The standard speed is decided by the state. For example, in NY it's 30 for city, 55 for rural. It's good to learn that for your state.
Holy crap your scaring me. I'm taking my ear in 2 months. Are they allowed to do that?!
Wow. Maybe you can report him? It doesn't matter if it's a driving test or not, if he made you do something illegal and tricked you about it maybe he'll get in trouble for it. He's an ass, I'm sure you did great :)
I don't think OP was tricked or forced, since the FML says he was asked to do a U turn and not told to do one. The tester simply left it to OP to find where to make the U turn, while OP thought that he needed to make it right away, because those DMV guys are always right and must be obeyed without question.
I disagree, if the instructor had asked, as you say, then it would have come out "can you do a u-turn here" to which op would've replied. Op says he said to take the u turn, meaning he said "do a u-turn here please" which means he was telling op to do something illegal. Either way, I would expect to have to do everything the instructor tells me to. If he tells me to turn right I'm not going to turn left or I'll fail. We're relying on what they tell us to do. Seems really dirty to me.
@37, the OP clearly states that the instructor TOLD him to pull over and do the first U-turn, and a few minutes later ASKED him to do another. I completely agree with 32, OP wasn't tricked, he didn't know the rules of the road, and failed because of it. And even if he was told to do the second u turn, the OP would have a lot more basis to contest the decision if OP stated that that u turn was illegal, or hell the OP could have kept going till he could take a legal u turn. If the instructor told you to change lanes, and there was a car next to you, are you going to crash into that car, or drive them off the road because the instructor told you to? No, you would wait. Common sense.
I think it all hinges on the wording. If the instructor said, "make a u-turn when possible" it is OP's fault for not knowing the rules of the road. However, if the instructor said, "make a u-turn here please" then OP is not at fault. In my driver's ed classes, we were told that if we disobeyed the examiner at any point, we would fail the test automatically. That's why the examiners are supposed to be very clear about their instructions (ie. saying "change lanes when it is safe to do so" rather than simply "now change lanes"). Additionally in OP's defense, drivers are taught to follow the instructions of police officers, fire fighters, and other authorities, even if they seem to contradict the rules of the road. Perhaps OP thought driving instructors fell into this category. It may be true that the test should be more difficult, but trick questions aren't the answer; they only serve to confuse people who are otherwise confident in what they know.