By Anonymous - 08/10/2010 18:33 - Canada
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An 85? That's not that great. Most people I know get above 95.
Bobissmall - AS/Alevels are a little subjective, I think the grades are based on UMS marks, which aren't the same as raw marks, so some years you need a raw mark of say 85% to get an 80% USM whereas other years you only need 75% to get the same USM marks. However I agree, 85% is pretty smart either way.
I hate the comment bug. Cinn, raw marks in an exam are converted to UMS marks according to the difficulty of the exams taken. Also, don't a-levels just go by UMS marks? It's the way we did it. Like with the Biology course consisted of 6 exams worth 100, 2 exams worth 100, coursework worth 200, and a final project worth 200?
@70: In Canada (Ontario at least) we use Levels which equal letter grades. Level 4+/A+ = 90%+ Level 4/A = 85-89% Level 4-/A- = 80-84% Level 3+/B+ = 77-79% Level 3/B = 73-76% Level 3-/B- = 70-72% Level 2+/C+ = 67-69% Level 2/C = 63-66% Level 2-/C- = 60-62% Level 1+/D+ = 57-59% Level 1/D = 53-56% Level 1-/D- = 50-52% R (Remediation)/F = 0-49% So although you have more leeway before a mark becomes a failing grade in Canada, it can be annoying because when you have an assignment that's marked subjectively (i,e, with a rubric), it's near impossible to get what would be an A+ in America, because that would be a Level 4++/4+++ up here. And it's a lot more intuitive for a teacher to give an "A+" than a level 4+++, even though they'll end up giving the same mark. So in some classes even if you do everything perfect you probably won't end up with an 100 in the course.(report cards give grades in percentages starting from Grade 7)
How do other countries' grading systems work? In the USA it goes (assuming only whole-number grades): 0-59: F — Failing 60-62: D- — Terrible 63-66: D — Terrible 67-69: D+ — Terrible 70-72: C- — Bad 73-76: C — Not Good 77-79: C+ — Mediocre 80-82: B- — Not Bad 83-86: B — Good 87-89: B+ — Quite Good 90-92: A- — Very Good 93-96: A — Excellent 97-100: A+ — Amazing 101+: A+ — Only occurs with extra credit.
In my high school, 63 or lower was an F (I think) and an A was a 93 or higher...I never memorized what the other cut-offs were, although I think C- was 72. I never really cared what anything else was because nothing less than a 90 was acceptable, and preferably nothing less than 95. In college, a 90 is an A. That seems to be pretty standard, but professors can set their own grade levels. My sociology class is 85, which is weird, considering how easy the tests are. It does depend on the class, though. If I got a 75 in o chem, I was ecstatic. In my one bio class, the average test scores were around 70 (the professors were horrible, though). My chem class in high school, the teacher was absolutely crazy and the highest grade was usually around a 50, but he shifted the grades up.
woooooooooowwww there's soooo many cool people here!!!! someones lowest grade right now is an 86?!?!? others are disappointed when they get anything below 90%?!? you guys are so smart! just kidding. get off your high horse you douche bags, nobody cares if you think you're smart. i dunno if this qualifies as an FML though, but whatever. Good job OP, nothin wrong with an 85.
At RPI there are no specified number/letter grade conversions, because each class is different. What is considered an A in one class may not be considered so in another. Some classes may be graded more centered around homeworks and projects, which generally means that it's about 90% for an A, etc. The class from the example in my previous post (above), the teacher gave tests that took not only what he covered in class but also extrapolations of the material beyond what he covered. He didn't expect most of the people to be able to answer some of the questions, but included them mainly just to see if we would be able to figure it out. The ridiculous curve (60%+ = A) was a reflection of the expected difficulty. Personally I think it's more of a disservice to cater to the dumber students and make the classes easier (hence the necessity for near perfect scores to be considered good), than to challenge students beyond their capabilities in order to help them grow. From first-hand experience I've seen people who were valedictorians of their high school completely bomb courses or even fail out when actually presented with challenging and difficult coursework. In the end it's all about what you get out of a course, not whether you got 100 on everything.
None of you guys seemed to notice it doesn't say what level test they were taking. E.G. They might have gotten 85% on a spelling test, which is ok I guess. They also could have gotten 85% for the HUGE theory essay at the end of their degree.. And this FML is quite pathetic. Someone cares too much what their friends think.
'Gore, I think we all hate the comment bug. And yes, but the difficulty it decided based on how the students did on that particular exam, and so the scale from raw to UMS marks changes each year. And it depends on whether people go on UMS or grade, usually they want to see both, as the grade quickly tells you what area they got, and the UMS tells you exactly where they were within that area. I remember being told to quote both.
Wow don't worry im smart too and act dumb. But how could you get a 85 on any test? Schools are so easy and boring
Yea i was looking at some charts. Our state has a 20 avarage on the ACT. In 8th grade i took a test that estimates my act score and i got a 22-26. Also in my city only 2 schools have less that 60 percent mexican. White people are acually a minortiy where i live. Its funny though how as the hispanic count goes up the test scores go down.
85% is good on a test except one you know you could've done better on. Some tests are easy to some people, others aren't. It just depends, however, I think that 85% is a good mark on any test.
85 is good but I don't find it that good for me 90% and above makes me happy 85-80 are just meh