By Thank you, exactly what I wanted Sergeant - 21/08/2016 13:53
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And how do you have internet access? When I did my basic course I didn't speak to my family for 3 months much less whine on the internet about character building. Stop being a bitch or get out of the services.
How is scrubbing pots and slime character building? It just teaches you that being at the bottom of the hierarchy means doing menial work. Learning to clean and to look after yourself is something your parents should teach you while growing up, you don't wait to enter the military for that.
Just cause parents should doesn't mean they do. I'm pretty sure the point isn't to build character, it's to break it and then reshape it. The military teaches you to act as a unit with others because having a bunch of lone wolves running around in combat would probably end in all their deaths.
JRod, Basic Combat Training in the Army has different lengths, when I went it was 10 weeks, which is 2 1/2 months. Army Basic for Combat Arms, Infantry and other combat MOS's is another 4-6 weeks. Making it 3 1/2 to 4 months long. So, rounding up regular basis, especially if they were a hold over, or recycle if they had to redo a part, or if they are combat arms, Basic is 3 months.
I'm a Marine, and Marines don't get to have cell phones during boot camp. You don't have it that bad. One day of scrubbing toilets won't hurt you. Soon it'll probably be someone else's birthday, and they'll do the same. Good luck in the military, OP.
When I went through BCT, cell phones were not allowed, and the phones available were only to be used on special occasions and emergencies. Snail mail was the only communication. The regs have changed, and servicemembers are now allowed to use their cell phones in BCT. Not sure about the Marines, though. FYI, the Army has Drill Sergeants, the Navy Recruit Division Commanders (RDCs), the Marines Drill Instructors (DIs), and the Air Force Military Training Instructors (MTIs).
Went through BMT with the Air Force just 4 years ago, and we never got to use our cell phones except to call home once a week for 15 minutes, if we were lucky. Just got some new slick sleeves here in my shop who just got out of basic just a few months ago, and they got the same luxury as I did. This post must just be about a memory of something in the past.
wow2mylife, your dad is in the National Guard, which means he's part of the military. So yes he can have his cell phone 99% of the time depending on his job in the military. People are assuming that the OP made this FML from Basic Combat Training, where people generally don't have cell phones.
Can someone explain to me why they made OP do all of that laborious, gross stuff on her birthday? What's the lesson they are trying to convey? Does it teach discipline? Do they not want happiness? Genuinely curious.
Yep, you can't have a bunch of selfish and independent combatants because you have to work as a team. Imagine if instead of making plays in sports everyone just did what they felt like. They would lose. Same with the military, except instead of losing a trophy everyone lost their lives.
it's the military, and when away at training/camps they aren't going to give you a day off and some cake when it's your birthday. It's designed to be tough, it's designed to make you do things you don't want to do. No one should expect any special treatment on their birthday, and like what happened to the OP, if anyone in command found out you can bet they're gonna give them a nice birthday surprise. This FML is kinda lame, cause in the military you are supposed to just do what you have to do, and not complain.
Simple because at Basic Training or Boot Camp you get shit on. They try to break you down, make you feel like your not important so they can "build you up" with their military doctrine. Cleaning on your birthday isn't all that bad, in my unit they "pink belly" you. They quite literally slap the shit out of you till you're bruised all over or bleading.
The Army wants people who are right for the Army. I had my birthday in Basic Combat Training. It sucked. But it set me up for having my birthday while I was deployed. As a Soldier you have a job to do. If you can't handle a shitty birthday, Basic is the time to find out, because you can still get out. I had a 143 people in my Basic, 89 graduated, less actually completed their job training, most got out after their first contract. Now like 10 people are still in 8 years later.
Interesting33, I know people who have been blown up on their birthday. Fortunately the vehicle they were in took most of the blast and they were okay. Having to clean and do the shitty jobs is part of the job of a junior Soldier. Now the OP's cleaning sounds a bit excessive. Maybe the OP's Drill Sergeants were asses, or maybe they were testing the OP for some other reason, either a good or bad prior performance. As Soldiers we are expected to be in the bad situations and still do our jobs, if that's not for you, then the military isn't for you. Which is part of what the Drill Sergeants job is, remove the people who don't make the cut.
It's so she won't expect special treatment on her birthday later on. It will get better when she gets out of basic training, though. Then she can request leave for her birthday or any other special occasion she wants and unless her chain of command is a bunch of assholes or there's some extenuating circumstances it will get approved. That is, until she gets deployed. Then life will be shitty again.
there is no real reason its a job that has to be done, and it got found out that its there birthday, so they got it, old tradition in the army, if anyone finds out its your birthday, somethings gonna happen. luckly it was just cleaning dishes i got to clean bird nests made of shit just last week thursday
yeah that's my point, it just so happens the drill sergeant found out and made them do that. it's just how it is - it's not anything personal (unless the OP was being taught a lesson or what not). It could have happened to anyone else there with the OP, and I bet it will. Being away at training/camps isn't meant to be enjoyable. I bet they needed to have the bathrooms cleaned, found out it was OP's birthday, and figured they'd give him a nice present
being in the military myself I think it conveys that your birthday is not special. The enemy won't be concerned that its your birthday and thinking too much about it can be a distraction and distractions can get you killed. While deployed 'special' days have to be treated like any other. Things are a little different in our profession. Hope this answers your question
@31 LOL no. You're thinking of the police. The function of the military - any military - is to kill people and break things. They have to break the recruits (in the sense of breaking a horse to saddle or to harness) into doing things the military way so that they will be able to fulfill their function. Don't like it? Don't join.
Stop being such a pansy. My mom makes me clean more than that. Its the military, they're not suppose to hand you daisies, feed you fresh fruit & hold your hand while someone gives you a bubble bath. If you cant handle a little cleaning or some meaningless manhandling, then you definitely cant handle the shit-fest out in combat.
And this is why I don't regret leaving the Army. Too many idiots with power, always trying to humiliate the rest. That's why morale is low in the Army. It's not about character building. It's about proving that they have control over the lower enlisted.
Do your own dishes? That makes no sense in a cafeteria setting. Whose "own dishes" are the multiple gallon pots that soup and sauce are cooked in? Whose "own dishes" are the serving trays and utensils? I won't bother replying to the birthday part of your comment.