By Mimi - 29/11/2012 05:29 - United States
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I agree completely, I took my younger brother shopping and bought him an iPad as he is also autistic, among other disabilities. two people commented saying that kids nowadays just get whatever they want. disgusting how they judged without knowing that it's to help him achieve normalcy and interact with people
I agree with you as well. I can see where OP was coming from with his comment though. My younger sister is 10 and a total brat! My parents bought her a cell phone and since it kept breaking they bought her a new one with internet and touch-screen. And now they are buying her an iphone. There is nothing wrong with young kids having electronics unless (in my sister's case) they don't deserve them at all. She is one of the all around meanest people I know yet she still gets what she wants. It's pretty sad...
78 depending in how much you buy that kid you can buy a kid a 10-10$ items or 1 100$ dollar item and there is less wrong with buying the 100$ item, kids need to learn to appreciate things and not just keep getting new stuff regardless of cost, otherwise they'll no longer appreciate the gifts and become spoiled .
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I think he had a right to MENTION not rant to his coworker or whatever. But how was he supposed to know? No one would think of that when someone says, "I'm buying an iPad for my five year old." it was a douchey mistake.
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He'l NO! She has no rights ... She should have been more educated... Go to the App Store and look at what is out there .. Hell look at CNN/ Wall Street Journal... Etc... They all have articles about One2One programs in elementary through high school. That was a bonehead move and if I were the manager I would have banned OP from my store!
You may keep out of other peoples business in the future. Although I'm also annoyed when I see 5yr olds with the newest apple gadgets.
That is your pony of view.. My 2 year old know how to start a web app and start doing simple addition... I bet when you were two I were still drooling at the tv....
33 - I'm pretty sure you're statement is partially factually correct. When I was two, you WERE still drooling at the TV screen. My issue with youngsters having such ridiculously expensive "toys" is my issue with fucking entitlement. The same kid that gets an iPad at 6 gets a Camaro for their 15th birthday. The kid that gets a Camaro gets a free ride to college. The kid that gets a free ride to college has their parents pull strings for a nice first job. So on and so forth until you get my favorite people. The ones that firmly believe, "Poor people are commodities to be bought and sold." Like every homeowner I've ever done work for.
A generation or two of kids have now spent most of their childhood in front of the TV. It amazes me how much TV my kids' peers watch. At least an iPad is a bit more interactive than the goggle-box. In any case, however, that is the parents' money and the parents' choice. Crucially, it's not OP's choice or OP's business unless they are OP's kids.
Spelling is irrelevant. The point is still valid. I'm sure that when TV first came out, people feared kids would waste their time/childhoods with it. Same for movies & video games. Apple products aren't worse. They're helpful learning tools. People just prefer things from their own childhoods.
One of my mom's colleagues came to her, frustrated because she didn't know what to do with her four year old. She said she bought the kid a laptop for her birthday but the child just kept trying to sit on her lap and be with her. My mom was upset and said, "Sit on the floor and PLAY with her. She' wants your attention, not your money." It annoys me too when people buy small children the latest gadgets but I would never say something to them unless it was my friend and it came up in conversation.
And even after kid's parents pulled strings, the "kid" might still die from overdose, suicide or in car accident. You assume that material wealth, gadgets and toys guarantee happiness or well-being, which is why you're unhappy about "spoiled" children. In reality, life is unjust and nothing is guaranteed - anybody can get their life ruined or die horrybly for absolutely no reason at any moment. You might want to keep this in mind.
And let me guess, you've got no kids but you're quick to tell others how to raise their kids! From now on, learn to STFU!
8- I know somebody like that. Claims to never want kids, has never really been around children, but knows EVERYTHING about raising them. She is one of those who thinks a parent should be a friend first, parent second, and scolds for punishing any way other than a time out. Completely ridiculous, I'm waiting on the day somebody puts her in her place.
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I don't think you deserved it at all. Parents over-spoiling their kids with expensive electronics is really common, and there's no way you could have known about her son's disability. Honestly I think she should have expected a reaction like that, since she was publicly talking about buying an iPad for a child. If I was her I would've at least kept that to myself to avoid an awkward situation like that.
25: I don't recall the FML stating that the child was with the mother. And yes. Parents do over-spoil their children. I didn't say the parent in the FML particularly, I meant parents in general. Because it's true. I've heard of parents buying iPads for their (perfectly normal) 2-year-olds. I'm sorry but a *perfectly fine* child of that age does not need something like an iPad. I'm not denying that the child in the FML is a different story. I'm just saying the OP did nothing more than verbalize what a lot of people think when they hear someone talking about buying a ridiculously expensive electronic device for a small child.
Nnnope - Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Yours here just happens to be incredibly stupid. There are lots of great educational apps for children. You don't have any right to criticise anyone's parenting technique. If I want to get something for MY child, that's MY right as a parent.
40: there's also a lot of educational THINGS parents can DO with their children. I'd rather take my kid to the park or a museum than waste $700 on something with a glass screen they could break and hurt themselves with. (Yes, you can hurt yourself on a shattered screen, my friend shattered her iPhone's screen and it cut her fingers).
50: yeah I guess my friend deserved it for being a single mom with two jobs and still being unable to afford to fix that screen immediately. If you actually read my comments, you'd know I said it's COMMON. Not 100%. What happened to your friend is unfortunate, but I've seen a lot more shattered iPhone/iPad screens than I've ever seen broken legs.
Nnnope, your argument can then be said about persons of ANY age. No one NEEDS an iPad. People get them for a variety of different reasons, none of which are needs. So, by your standards, every person who owns an iPad is spoiled. You talk about freedom of speech to defend your opinion and words, yet you're deciding who should or should not own iPads? What happened to freedom to spend my money the way I choose? If a two year old uses an iPad to learn or communicate, who's to say my use of an iPad for playing games is a more justified one?
Poking holes in your argument is not and should not be seen as me viewing it as a personal attack. Please learn how to argue properly, and instead of constantly reverting back to "notice how I said," use your words and try to make someone actually think your view might be comprehendible. The fact is, your opinion is entitled, arrogant, and uneducated. And you're now mad that person after person has jumped in and poked new holes in it, and essentially proved you wrong over and over.
103 - Autism often doesn't show up until a child is around 2 years old. This is the basis of the whole "MMR vs autism" scandal in the UK. If you have a child then you may have an autistic child. Retro-active abortion is not an option! No-one (or at least very few) ever plans on having an autistic child. Not everything can be controlled, even by you.
Employees are required to make small talk to try and sell people additional products. He did deserve it, as he was not part of the conversation and "ranted" about it to people who did not ask for his opinion. I tell the employees when something is a gift and the gender/age so they can recommend the right products to go with it if they are available.
110 - I hadn't thought about that but that's correct. Even chromosomal abnormalities like Down Syndrome aren't detectable via ultrasound. You would need an amniocentesis, and by the time you would do that, it would legally probably be too late to abort, depending on where you live.
I think they are getting ever better at detecting genetic problems like Down's and a scan can give you an idea with some because they are often associated with developmental differences which can be detected (nuchal fold tests, looking for the nasal bone etc). I would always defend a woman's right* to have further tests and terminate a pregnancy if she (they) felt they could not give a child an acceptable standard of life. However, at present that is not an option for Autism. Whatever your view on an autistic child's standard of life, as far as I know, the diagnosis is on the basis of clinical observation rather than biological testing. You just can't do that until a child is old enough to interact with others and some autistic children "regress" in their social interaction and become evidently autistic when they were apparently normal not long before. You can't terminate on that basis without a time machine. * (although perhaps that should be the parents' right since some element of paternal choice might be advisable)
I personally dislike how hypocritical fml is; I've seen hundreds of thumbed up comments saying how kids with Ipads and the like are spoiled, but in an fml about a situation where someone said that in public now everyone hates the person for having the same opinion that was previously thumbed up.
Nnnope, that logic is unsound. What you are basically saying is that OP has the right to judge people on the items they buy because what you percieve as the majority of people buy it for reasons you dislike. Also, let's focus on freedom of speech. I love when people use freedom of speech as an argument, because they use it a lot the way you used it. Yes, OP has the constitutional right to say something, no matter how stupid it is. However, people have the right to call OP stupid. They have a right to call your opinion stupid. They have the right to believe that OP doesn't have the right (in this case, a societal and not a constitutional right) to judge as OP judged.
I'm going to have to agree with nnope. If the FML had gone, "Today, I overheard that a woman was buying an iPad for her 5 year old. I wouldn't be able to afford one if I saved for a year. FML," every comment would be talking about how terrible it is that kids get whatever they want these days. There probably would have been comments saying that OP should have spoken up about it. I'm pretty sure that very few people would have given the mom the benefit of doubt if the wording was different and suggested it might help a disability.
Nnnope: I'm pro-choice, but that is, by far, one of the most completely fucking disgustingly ignorant things I've ever, EVER heard. You don't "plan" on having an autistic child? How fucking ignorant are you? Nobody PLANS on having an autistic child. If you did have an autistic child, however, it is your job, as a parent, to love that child unconditionally in spite of it's disabilities. You sound like one of the most arrogant, self-entitled twits I've ever heard. I seriously hope you DON'T have children. Your iPad rant has so many holes it's laughable. You can't justify your reasoning with logic, do you go on the defensive and bitch out anyone that disagrees. You're a sorry excuse for a person.
I think the same way, OP has the right to speak, and a child does NOT need and IPad, because there are other educational devices for children that would be better. It wasn't the OP's fault, he/she didn't know the child had autism, but the OP has a right to speak their mind, though, he/she shouldn't have ranted, just merely say their opinion.
I just want to point out to the people who are complaining about how everyone would have agreed with OP had the child not been autistic that we -or at least I- most certainly wouldn't. The main YDI of the FML is that the OP ranted at this lady for a choice that OP has no business involving herself in. Privately thinking that the child must be spoiled is one thing, but butting in and yelling at the mother is an *entirely* different matter. Freedom of speech is not free license to be a dick.
Nickithebest - You may have the right to free speech in the US, but that does NOT give you the right to stick your nose where it DOES NOT BELONG. If a stranger made some comment to me about how he disagreed with how I am raising my child, I would calmly tell that person to go fuck himself.
10- they were talking to an employee, OP just overheard. And what right did OP have to tell this complete stranger how to live her life and raise her kids? Sure little kids running around with iPhones and shit bugs me. It's unnecessary. But it's not my place to shit on the parents for it.
Wow. This thread right here is just crazy. To think that people basically suggested in parts of this thread that one should consider terminating a pregnancy over Down syndrome or Autism is absolutely appalling. The last time people did mass terminations of children with disabilities was in Nazi Germany. Good to see that the Nazi ideals managed to live on in some format. Absolutely ridiculous. Also, who is anyone to tell anyone how to parent? My child owns an old iPod of my wife's and a small guitar and is only 3. It's not a spoiling factor, she has already shown musical ability and we are encouraging it. Sometimes parents know best what tools can be used to teach their kids, NOT outsiders.