By Anonymous - 21/02/2011 15:15 - United States
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Euthanasia is not murder. What an absurd statement. If the dog was sick and suffering, and would die after months of pain, would euthanasia be murder? Yes, it's ABSOLUTELY TRAGIC that friendly, healthy dogs are put to sleep, but I do not, for one second, blame the shelters. The shelters are the only thing keeping those dogs from running the streets, getting hit by cars, starving, or getting torn apart by feral dogs. It's the people who won't neuter their dogs, or who buy cute little puppies from pet shops, where they're from puppy mills, instead of adopting a dog, that are at fault.
becoming neutered has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS! being neutered only means that (if you're a dog) you can't get pregnant or other dogs pregnant because dogs just run around having sex with all the dogs! not to mention the fact that all dogs are gay which gas nothing to do with this! :)
I guess I might be the only person that thinks this, but I personally don't feel that we always have the right to put animals down. Maybe in cases of suffering, but then again, I couldn't imagine doing that to a suffering cancer patient. Most people would continue fighting to live, and since we can't communicate with animals, we don't know what they're going through. In my opinion, euthanizing a healthy animal is murder.
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that's cruel. Do we kill off orphaned kids because nobody took them within x amount of days? NO. this is just wrong wrong wrong, and im sorry you had to see that OP.
I don't want to start an endless thread but animals do not have consciousness of self like children do. I mean it's still awful like I said before but you can't compare children with dogs, that's childish and useless. we don't eat humans do we? but why do most of us (including me) eat meat? it's not like meat grows on trees, right?
It's not childish to compare a living thing to another living thing. The whole conscious thing we people have will just be the death of us either way. I simply hate it when people are like "Oh, it's an animal, it doesn't matter if we kill it or not, because they have no feelings!" Seriously, people are the ones that need to be killed off; we're seriously just gonna overpopulate. Yes, some people eat other people. It's called cannibalism. Which I don't see what has to do with anything, animals aren't usually cannibalistic.
Honestly to compare a child to a dog is stupid. when the child grows older will they most likely be able to support themselves with a job? yes. Dogs on the other hand will not be able to support themselves and will just probably end up dying on the street from starvation therefore to euthanize dogs can in no way be compared to euthanizing children.
48 - I was taught the same thing in my Psychology class. Animals are obviously very different from humans and can't comprehend like us. They don't think, "Oh, I'm a dog and my owner is a human. I can't speak, but they can. I'm 11 years old in their world, but 450 in my world. My name is Spot, but theirs is Jake." They can't understand the same things we do, but they're still conscious beings with personalities and a functioning brain. Just because they're different from us does not give anyone the right to kill them and dump them in a landfill... I find that just wrong. I understand why they do it, but I don't agree with it.
39 - The point was that if humans and animals are equal, why do we not eat humans while we do eat other meat? I don't know who is going around downvoting Roxxay's comments on dogs not being comparable to children, but whoever you are, you're an idiot. How'd you like it if your own parents thought you were no better than a dog? (By the way, I am a dog lover, and I do believe euthanizing unadopted animals is horrid. But putting these animals on an equal social status with children is stupid.)
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It IS childish to say that there is no difference in killing dogs and in killing children. also almost all animals are cannibalistic. many animals even eat their own children, just for you to know. there are people who eat other people, but they are mentally ill. No one would judge a monkey or a lion for eating it's children, which they actually do sometimes. We don't need to humanize animals to treat them good. I simply hate it when people are like "oh someone said something against animals now I just have to stop thinking about it and go and defeat them because people are so mean and animals are so cute and clever." Maybe they are, but they still don't have an cogito/ego even if they can have feelings or recognize themseves. I'm not "against" animals, I think they deserve to be treated good and that you should respect them. I ju8st don't get your overreaction.
Dogs are not just brainless animals who eat what they want, when my grandfather passed away he had no one with him except his German Shepard and the dog had no way to get to food for three days while my grandfather was dead and when they found my grandfather the dog was sitting there waiting for him to wake up.
I agree that comparing killing children to killing animals is stupid and childish. Even if they're both living, most people don't treat animals in the same way as humans. Dogs don't eat off of tables, they don't bathe every day, etc. It's not cruel to euthanize dogs (or any animal, for that matter) if they've been in the pound and there's no more room or if they're ill/injured. There's a good chance that the animal would suffer in either situation. Is it sad? Yes. But it's not the same as it is for children. Children have a better chance at a better life than animals do, and unlike an animal, they can eventually leave no matter what. I don't hate dogs or any animals, just for the record. I love them, but this is just what I find to be the most logical side of the argument. As for the OP's job, that really does suck. FYL.
Actually as a clinical psychologist I can tell you that there is just as much evidence that dogs have an "ego" as you as a human does. The idea of cognitive or emotional processing (cogito??) is very difficult to prove definitively outside the perception experience yet recently a dog was proven to recognise over 1000 words. Much research also exists that dogs and other species actually supersede humans in using sensory information such as barometric shifts, etc. it would appear to be the height of species arrogance and ignorance to assume or state that one species is more sentient than another without any form of empirical evidence whatsoever.
125 - Recognize over 1000 words? From what I know, they don't actually understand words themselves but the intonations and inflections in your voice while you say them. My dog will sit on command, but I need to have the right tone in order for him to understand and actually sit. Otherwise, he'll look at me as if I'm crazy and go off to do something else.
did you know pigs have the average intelligence of a 5 year old child? dogs also have this level of intelligence as well. just wanted to clear that up :3 p.s I'm an animal lover, that experience would leave me emotionally devastated, hence the FML. sorry if you don't get it, it just depends on your experience with dogs I guess, I still miss the dog I grew up with, he died 4 months ago D:
I still miss my dog that died years ago. She was a great pet and my best friend. I was really sad to see her go. The difference is, if I even think about losing one of my children, I feel nauseated. Fuck it. I don't even feel like typing the rest of this comment because I'm thinking about it now.
It was believed that dogs only understood word inflection or intonation yet this 1000+ word dog experiment was conducted with object identification and is a replication of other studies completed by psychology departments across the world. We believed dogs only understood how words were spoken rather than words but we assumed too much. We were wrong.
225 - I agree that abortion is horrible, but I still accept it in certain situations. I myself have never had one, and hopefully will never have to go through that. But if I had been raped, for example, and became pregnant because of that, I wouldn't want to bring that child into this world knowing where it came from and such. It would be a constant reminder of a potentially scarring situation... I don't know. It's sort of a sticky topic which is why I ask your opinion on that part of it. I also wouldn't want to bring a child into the world knowing it would be in pain for the rest of his or her life (totally different situation than a rape child) but I still don't know what I'd do in that situation. I'd feel horrible for letting him or her live knowing full well they're hurting and I can't fix it, but I'd feel even worse for not letting it have the chance to live. I am rambling; I need my coffee.
While I'll be one of the last to try to say that there's anything wrong with canine euthanasia (other than the fact that there are as many dogs needing it as there are on account of people not spaying/neutering their pet), we did kinda get canis lupus familiaris into being more or less dependent on us, so it'd be pretty irresponsible to say that they need to survive for themselves. Doubly so since we're not in such danger that we can't take care of them.
idk if 239 was joking about humans being responsible for taking care of their own species but they don't need to ruin the whole world to do so. If any species needs to die out it's humans, I don't see any others doing as much damage as we are. I don't see how people became so self absorbed and inconsiderate, or came to think were better than every other living thing. it's sad the dogs were killed and I understand why it happens but they don't need to be put down (as in insulted) and said how inferior they are to humans.
Roxxay, there are plenty of people who study animals who have found that some dog breeds produce many dogs within that breed that have an intelligence similar to a toddler, not just even a few dogs randomly. Just because they are physiologically different doesn't mean they don't have feelings, haven't you ever seen a dog really happy to see its owner? Or scared of an abusive owner? Or angry at things someone might do like taunting it? Dogs are living things with a brain that enables them to comprehend our language, how do you think dog training works? That puts them pretty near children in the way you seem to be saying, they just can't speak because they are built different. (And btw, I had a friend who taught her dog to say(or bark if that enables you to understand better) "I love you" when she told it to. Everyone who heard it was shocked that it sounded so clear)
thats ridiculous, to all the shitheads that r wondering, we eat meat becuz we're at the top of the food chain, dogs dnt have the inteligence to "eat us" the same way they dnt have it to log onto a computer nd go on fmylife.com for stupid debates, that dusnt mean we r superior, all gods creatures r equal so stfu
it is like that. there is not enough places to keep the animals and only the pretty ones get to go for adoption while the rest will be put to sleep.
Volunteer at a no kill shelter instead. Better cause to support and no dead animals. I do.
It's not necessarily a better cause. What about the tens of thousands of dogs that end up at the local animal control? They have a low chance of being adopted, having a comfortable run to stay in, or receiving walks. They are the ones that need our help the most. Don't litter, neuter your critter!