By Anonymous - 01/02/2010 05:00 - United States
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#72 - Really? Shows what you know about the NHS then really, doesn't it? I was admitted with appendicitis three years ago. I got a bed straight away, had the appendix out two days later and went home the day after that, complete with 100 paracetamol and 50 ibuprofin. No fuss, no waiting and no cost.
#76: You waited TWO DAYS to have the appendix out? wtf? You act like that's completely normal. You got a bed right away and TWO DAYS LATER your appendix was out? They should have had it out within hours of you getting there. That is life threatening. Also, I have heard horror stories from friends in both England and Canada. As it is everywhere, there are good sides and bad sides. My friend Robbie(in London) had a tile cutter go through his hand. While in the room with the doctor, she left 3 times to answer her phone and find out what her friends were doing that weekend. He was a teeeeny bit pissed. He doesn't like it. Also, my friends sister in law severely hurt herself in an accident up n Canada (she's a citizen). She had multiple surgeries and all that. Well, pulling her pants up one morning, it re-tore the ligaments in her shoulder. She was not able to get an appointment for over a month. So, though there are some good sides to NHS, there are some big downsides, as well. Also, I know some countries (England included) use CER (Cost-effective research). England treats half as many End-Stage renal disease patients with dialysis, because they feel it isn't cost effective, than the US. With ESRD, an extra week could mean a transplant and life. They also treat less cancer patients. People are looking for a quick fix in the US. They have no idea the ramifications a complete overhaul could have on our country right now.
She answered her phone in the room and left as she was talking. It was pretty bad, lol. His hand ended up having some nerve damage. I absolutely agree that it's nice knowing you can get to a doctor whenever. I know that when I didn't have insurance and was looking for my own plan, I would have only had to pay about 100-120 per month which isn't much more than what I pay now with work. That's with pre-existing conditions. I have ADHD and a history of melanoma. I know a lot more about the state-run healthcare in California, and if you live there, there really isn't a reason to not have insurance. You wouldn't believe how many people just assume they can't get it and so they don't try. There are also free clinics that people wont go to because they assume they wont get good care. There are definitely a lot of horror stories in our country. I don't doubt that. I just think they're everywhere. Hell, there's only one doctor in the entirety of my current town (it's a tiny mountain town in Arizona with a population of about 16k) that I would ever let operate on me. He is doing my upcoming surgery and I would never go to anyone else. Ive seen far too many botched operations to even understand why the other doctors are still practicing. It scares me. A LOT. So, I def know there are some awful doctors out there, and they're going to be everywhere. I also know that if you do your research, you can find out who the good ones are :) I always want to have the choice of WHO I go to.
NHS is such a fucking joke, i dunno why people are such pansies. I'm sorry but if i've worked my ass off all my life and have the money/insurance to pay then damnit let me get treated when i feel like it. you guys want to talk about basic human rights, what about my right to make more money then you and get better healthcare because of it? also people talk about basic human rights and shit but let me tell you life is tough, sometimes you get the short end of the stick.
Really? Free healthcare? Wow. What other Free stuff comes from your govt? It's so cool how nobody had to pay anything for your operation. But wait? How did the doctor get paid? and the hospital? I guess your govt paid them... right. I see now. I wonder where they get the money to do that???
More of the American GDP is spent on healthcare per person than in countries with *OMGOMGOMG* SOCIALISED healthcare. So Americans are effectively being taxed more on healthcare except that their 'tax' is going to corporate wankers who don't give a shit about anything apart from profit rather than the government who will use it to improve the country. EDIT: Wow, look at the huuuuuge debate I started :)
NHS has nothing to do with a doctor answering her phone 3 times. That's like saying the entire US public school system is the reason why one teacher molested a student. My friend's dentist (in New York) kept chatting up the receptionist while she was having work done, that doesn't mean the US health care system is at fault. I think people dying from not having insurance and not being able to get treatment is more of a "horror story" than stories about people supposedly having to wait longer to receive health care, but that's just me. Suaveneanderthal, you really think that all doctors would be lazy and uncaring under the public health option because they "don't have the incentive" (aka money)? Not everyone is so focused on money that they would do a shitty job if they didn't make a ton of it. You are basically saying that "we need to keep bribing the doctors with lots of money or else they will totally forget the Hippocratic oath and kill us all!"
The Hippocratic Oath, huh? "The one that starts, "First, do no harm", then goes on to tell us: no abortions, no seductions, and definitely no cutting of those who labor beneath the stone? Yeah, took a read once. Wasn't impressed." -House M.D. Not saying it's no good, but the oath in and of itself doesn't mean much more than a Boy Scout's recitation of their motto: it's up to each person to decide if they follow it, and a large number of physicians, surgeons, nurses, etc. are all tied up in that damn "I need money to keep a roof over my head and food on the table" thing. So greedy of them really; I mean what kind of good doctor would POSSIBLY expect to ever be compensated for his work, right?
@90 You sir are completely right. Socialism is bad for America. Therefore I propose to shut down every single socialist program in the country. Say goodbye to school systems, the police force, the firefighting force, libraries, hey wait on a second. Remind me again why socialism is bad? All I remember is those people on TV telling me health care reform is socialist, and it mad me get all riled up and mad, but now that I just made that list of socialist programs I just realized something. I like socialist things. I enjoy having a school system to teach me and my future children. I like having a police force to protect me from criminals. I just realized that your argument is not valid as well.
You have got to be kidding. You don't need to take a first aid course to know NOT to fix a cut with glue! especially super glue which you never want to get on your skin!! you use a firm bandage to keep it all together and suppress bleeding and then go and see a doctor immediately for stitches.
I cut my finger open at work and they glued it shut. I doubt it was basic superglue but it worked fine. also you really think that half the people who spend, what, like 10 years and a lot of money to be a doctor are still going to do that when they are going to get paid less. or you think the doctors who are already doctors are going to stay when they are going to make less money and have no incrntive?
will you ppl shut THE FUCK UP!!!!! who the fuck gives a rats ass about who the fuck has fucking free healthcare. I don't cuz u know y? this is FML not politics so to all the ppl who are talking about this stupid fucking shit, STFU it's annoying as hell. who gives a shit if canada's is great or Europe is better or america is the best, I DONT so stfu or go email each other about this shit. I cannot stress this enuff by saying SHUT THE FUCKING FUCK UP
Superglue was originally invented as a medical adhesive. The stuff you buy in the store isn't approved for medical use, but if you're too poor to afford stitches, it might not be that terrible a choice. The U.S. has the best health care that money can buy. But not everybody has enough money to buy it.
LIfesuxlots - You know what idiot? Some people CAN'T better themselves merely by "hard work and perseverance". Many, many people are entrenched in poverty who work their ASSES off in low paying jobs just to get by, and they just don't have the oppurtunities to better themselves. People like you are exactly what's wrong with americans. Selfish, greedy and ignorant.
Yeah, on their way to a field hospital. It's not meant as a long-term solution for a wound. Instead of being a total dumbass, if you didn't have the money to get stitches, you should have gone to the store and used butterfly bandages instead. They hold open wounds shut while they heal. Pressure created by tightly wound gauze is also a good idea (though not so tight that you cut off circulation to other parts of your body). If you don't have medical insurance and you're prone to doing things like this, I'd purchase either a suture kit or a medical staple gun for yourself. They're cheap on amazon.com and maybe that way you won't destroy tissue in your finger because of the methyl alcohol in superglue (you should also know that medical super glue is very different from the hardware store shit you just put on your finger). Hopefully you don't have to go to the hospital with an infection from this. Otherwise you'll be spending a lot more than the could hundred dollars stitches cost you.
Either this is fake or you are the most retarded person alive. If you really applied super glue in your wound, the LEAST that will happen is that you'll have to get your finger amputated, and if you take too long to go to the hospital, possibly your entire hand will have to go, and in the worst case scenario the blood flow will spread the glue to other parts of your body and you'll die from the toxins.
Not true. Two years ago I cut my finger on a glass (it shattered when I was washing dishes), but couldn't go to the doctor until the next day. They said too much time had past for stitches, and recommended I either get superglue or gorilla glue and glue the skin together until it healed. I mean, I had to replace it once or twice a day, but it worked pretty well. I do have a pretty nice scar on my pinky now though heh. But yeah... putting superglue on a wound will not cause you to have to amputate your limbs. I was actually advised to do it by a doctor.
Toluene is commonly found in adhesives, but also in every day products like nail polish and nail polish remover. While Toluene is on a number of toxicity and carcinogen lists, it is not found in most superglues, as toluene is recommended to dissolve the cyanoacrylate bond. Super glue (whose prime ingredient is cyanoacrylate) is frequently used to treat deep wounds when stitches are not possible or practical (such as no med insurance, in the field, too much time passed for stitches, etc), and differes slightly from the cyanoacrylates used in hospital settings.. There are very minor differences between household superglue (ethyl-cyanoacrylate) and medical grade glue such as Dermabond (octo-cyanoacrylate). Oh, and Superglue (brand name) does not contain toluene. Here is the MSDS sheet for it. If you work with carcinogens and toxins, as I do in my lines of work (I do hair and have worked in a morgue), you'll know what an MSDS sheet is: http://www.biosci.ohio-state.edu/safety/MSDS/SUPER%20GLUE.htm
You're gonna die. It's gonna get infected. And you will die.
FYL for living in a country with no National health care