By Saddoc - 26/07/2013 07:58 - Australia - Dalkeith
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Eh. I found this funny. I mean honestly. Why all the hate? Thumb me down all you want. It's a shitty situation - and the only way I psychologically can deal is with humour. OP - I'm sorry your patient's daughter is a fucking moron. #1 I am sorry so many people found this offensive. I found it funny in a twisted sadistic sort of way.
I feel terrible for the elderly man. I couldn't imagine eating a half-cup of garlic a day. That in itself is torture.
I hope so, I live in Australia and this just sounds really off. Especially if the daughter was the carer should have to follow doctors orders. If she wasn't giving him the proper care then at minimum this is neglect, at worse this could be murder or at least manslaughter. Either we need more information about this or OP should be reporting the daughter to the police.
That reminds me of people who stop taking Meds and start doing Homeopathy, AKA sugar water. Armchair pseudo-scientists everywhere...
I have to call you out on the whole homeopathic thing, many of those remedies DO work. Garlic is, in fact, good for your heart but not in the way the daughter believed. Also, I'm a firm believer in many homeopathic remedies over prescription drugs because I've seen first hand the positive effects they have. A good friend of my had lymphoma and was told the treatments weren't working and she's have a few months to a year to live. She started on a homeopathic treatments at a place in Atlanta, and five years later she's still in remission. However, taking an elderly patient off all their heart medication without guidance from someone in the medical field is behind stupid and negligent. Sometimes, even homeopathic remedies can't help with medicine can.
homeopathy might be good sometimes, but in the probably unstable condition the now dead patient was, it would be too risky to suddenly take him off his meds like that. if his daughter would switch to homeopathy (still not recommended) at the right time, it would probably be when his condition becomes more stabilized and he is at no immediate risk.
Bubblegrunge, you knew damn well I wouldn't let this go. Homeopathy is pseudoscience at best and bullshit quackery at worst. The concept that water can somehow "remember" what's been diluted in it flies in the face of science. It doesn't do anything other than promote the placebo effect, which IS real. Now you don't have to believe in science, but that doesn't make it any less right.
garlic isnt homeopathic though. homeopathy is taking the functiong bit of the medicine and diluting it down. yes garlic is good for the heart ( and stomach) mint and ginger are good for indigestion and stuff like eachanicia is good at staving of colds. however if my heart or stomach was in any danger of killing me i would take the meds perscribed.
I think you are getting homeopathy confused with naturopathy. Homeopathy is the useless sugar pills that have the water and the so called 'memory' of the whatever cure you want retained in it due to the dilutions of umpteenth times and the knocking of the flask umpteenth times as well too. Quackery. Naturopathy is...well....very few actual true scientific studies on their work. I would call it a support of a healthy lifestyle in conjunction with western medicine but you never go off your meds for a life threateninh condition. None of the so called natural remedies or herbal medicines have really gone through through or have to go through the rigorous trials and testing for proof of what they claim they do and for safety like pharmaceuticals do before they are put on the market. And yes there have been many cases of pharmaceutical oopsies that have had to be taken off the market afterwards but, again, still remember, no natural medicine had to go throigh controlled studies, double blind tests, had to be published in proper peer reviewed journals etc etc. and natural medicine industry is and industry too. Out for profit. Worth billions. Almost worth as much as the pharmaceutical industry. Not just existing to make you feel all warm and fuzzy.
I thought homeopathy was the stuff that happened to medicine before science got a hold of it. Like eating the roots of a certain plant (or drinking tea made from it) to get rid of a headache. Science takes the plant and makes a pill called aspirin, and now it's medicine. I've never heard of this water dilution thing that y'all are talking about.
#76: Homeopathy is quackery that relies on two assumptions. First is that 'like cures like', so the cure for a headache is something that causes headaches. Second is that a treatment becomes stronger with each dilution, because the water 'remembers' substances it was in contact with. Homeopathic remedies are diluted in stages, generally in a 1:10 or 1:100 ratio, and this is repeated many times. Often, there is not a single molecule of the active ingredient left, but homeopaths would have you believe this is a potent remedy because of the water's memory effect. Of course, they ignore a crucial flaw in the memory hypothesis: if water really did have such a memory, then it would 'remember' every impurity and toxin it had ever touched, and would be extremely deadly. Homeopathy shows a profound misunderstanding of how the world works, and governments should force vendors of these 'remedies' to label them as to what they really contain, which is generally either plain water or sugar.