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okay so you got 2 choices, admit it and have a french baby, or have a abortion. choose wisely =D
your life may be fucked but you still deserve it
@ 17 its too late for that. also I have a feeling that she is against it because abstinence groups are normally thru a church so, I think she or family will be prolife
prolife doesn't exist, it's anti-choice, get your facts straight
people who are dumb think its "prolife". silly righties dont get that nobody is PRO-ABORTION, its about the choice.
good idea but the word "admit' means confessing the truth, It is not not a French baby. LOL
#190: emotionally charged terms. Besides, you forget that in most cases of abortion, it was the woman's choice to have sex that got her in the situation in the first place.
OP: You want us to feel sorry for you because you decided to break your vow of abstinence? Lemme guess..."I accidentally lead my boyfriend to his house, took off both mine and his clothes, sexually turned him on, and rammed his penis in my vagina untill he spermed inside me."? yeah right. If you were raped, then that'd be fine, but then it would be an FML about getting raped and not breaking your vow of abstinence.
Pro-lifers are anti-women and pro-choicers are anti-human. We're all happy.
Getting raped with a sandpaper condom is never fun.
Anyone see a leprichaun say YEAH!
#202: "If you were raped, then that'd be fine..."
Awesome.
#202: "...but then it would be an FML about getting raped and not breaking your vow of abstinence."
Awesome.
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actually, I would argue that pro-choice doesn't exist. It's more like anti-life. You should get your facts straight. abortion is straight up killing of a human being. The child is growing, so it must be alive. And it has two human parents, so it must be a human. A woman who has had sex has opened up the possibility of pregnancy, i mean, isn't it what sex is meant to do, it's a form of reproduction. So a woman who has had sex should own up to the fact that they will have a baby. soo please dont post hate comments about this topic until you fully understand exactly what you are talking about.
Clump of cells =/= Human
Maybe you should get your facts straight before posting.
#225. Please, listen to yourself. If you are trying to argue that a fetus is just a clump of cells, you may as well say that you and i are just clumps of cells. because, technically, thats what we are. A bunch of cells. So would you then say it was okay to kill your father, mother, brother, best friend? I'm trying to speak to you in kindness, i dont know why you are pro-choice, but maybe if you think about it youll realize that it's not a goog choice.
Did you ever think that maybe she is married and being pregnant is going to interfere with a year long trip to another country? Never did she say 'I made a vow of abstinence and now I'm pregnant'. Don't be so quick to judge
Sex is a form of reproduction 224? Does your species have more? hahaha. Also, OP YDI! this is why abstinence is so stupid, it doesn't work! Kids are always going to want to have sex. If you tell them their only choice is not having sex, they are just going to havesex. Like that moron Sarah Palin, who wanted to teach students abstinence instead of all the options (Birth control, etc.). She couldn't keep her own child from having sex before marriage, how the hell would she convince children she doesn't even know.
@ 230 Isn't abstinence not having sex until MARRIAGE. so if she was married then she wouldn't be in an abstinence group. There for she went against what the group is about and it's her own fault for getting pregnant. And Pro-Life doesn't mean you're against women it means you're against the unrightful killing of babies still in the womb who cannot protect themselves and cannot help it that their mother had sex when she was not ready to have a child and take on those responsibilities and decided it'd be best to kill the defenceless fetus who is a human being no matter what some may think. As soon as the egg is fertilized by the sperm and starts to grow it is a human being. so I agree with #224 and #229.
OP: You Deserve It for going against the abstinence group and having sex before marriage. And congratz on the new baby I wish you the best of luck.
#229 No because my family members are sentient people capable of thought. A clump of cells that has hardly developed is not.
216: as in "I'd agree with her having an abortion." (I swear, you lose all credibility and just start taking shit out of context.)
237: You know nothing about basic Biology. Genetically, there is no difference between a birthed baby and a fetus, hell, a zygote. And sentience is a convergent factor, not a sign of life. If we start basing life on convergent factors, we might as well burn forests since trees lack the convergent factor known as "sentience." Unless...unless you're a fan of wild deforestation.
You guys are sick. People are people and their choices are their own and they made them for reasons maybe you don't understand.
#241 - On 11/11/2009 at 9:46pm by bored690
HookEmTexas07, would you say a newborn is capable of sentiment or thought? because going with what you just said, you would agree to the killing of a newborn is okay. which im hoping you would agree isn't okay at all. Their is little difference between a newborn and a developing fetus if you think about it. Maybe we could talk about this not on the comment page.. cause this will go on for a while.. I don't want to debate with you. how about you message me and we can talk a little bit more privately about this?
240, by that logic, since chimpanzees are so closely genetically related to humans, you should be whining about their rights too. oh wait, pro lifers don't actually know facts, science and logic, they quote whatever they hear other pro lifers say and then throw in something about "god." who isn't real btw.
#251 - On 11/11/2009 at 11:56pm by expen_dable
I'm with 247 on this. I'm willing to debate this, just not on a comments page. Feel free to PM me, anyone. Seriously. This is one of the few things I'm willing to discuss.
Especially you 251, before you make more of an idiot of yourself in public.
@ 240: Apparently you are the one who knows little about biology. There is a genetic difference between a zygote and a birthed baby. A zygote turns into a bunch of stem cells that turn into specialty cells i.e. nerve cells, brain cells, muscle cells, etc. They may have the same DNA but that does not mean that they are they same.
To everyone else: Abortion is a matter of opinion. It isn't a fact. There is no right or wrong answer. People will disagree, but it is not alright to say somebodies opinion is wrong. Please respect everyones right to their own opinion.
P.S.
I'm pro choice, so all you pro lifers can SUCK IT!
NO YOU SUCK IT YOU MURDERING BITCH! ITS A SHAME YOUR MOM DIDNT ABORT YOU!
She tried, but I survived
I am thinking about aborting a turd in you mouth for being an annoying whiny bitch. Throw that crying fetus in a dumpster
236 - Maybe she runs the abstinence group and is the married woman who has done the abstinence thing and now can enjoy some sexytime with her husband. Just saying.
for christs sake all you "pro-lifers"
its not YOUR body, hence it isn't YOUR decison!
grow up and stop believing everyone should follow YOUR ethics
@ 275 - Then it wouldn't really be a FML cause she'd be setting an example of how good it is to stay abstinence until marriage and then have your kids it wouldn't be a bad thing unless she didn't want to have her baby in Paris then she could easily not go.
@276 - No, it's not the pro-lifers bodies but it's HER body and she had her choice to have sex knowing she could get pregnant and she did. So it's HER fault not the babies she had her choice to make and she thought it'd be best to have sex and have that little thrill in her life and as a result she is now pregnant and should there for TAKE responsiblitiy for her action and not MURDER an innocent and helpless human baby. If she can't provide for the kid then she can always give it to a family who WANTS a child and can care for him/her like a responisble person instead of taking the easy way out and just saying "oh look at that I was so stupid for having sex knowing I COULD get pregnant and I did. Oh well I'll just go KILL MY BABY." Really now? Does THAT sound good? I know people who have HAD to get abortions because their child died inside and that hurt them. I know a few teenage mothers as well and yes their life changed and they have hard times to go through but they are doing it and I'm very proud of every teenage mother out there who kept their child and resumed responsibility because majority of the time the guy won't stick around even if they say they will but the girl will still have their baby and live their life and give that child the best life they can. Those girls are the strong ones and who had to grow up extremely fast and take responsibility for something THEY did that was THEIR choice. Having sex is the WOMENS choice yes. But KILLING the baby? THAT doesn't involve JUST the girl/women that involves the slaughtering of another human life. So it's NOT just her choice. And only a heartless person can really kill another human being ESSPECIALLY a defenseless baby.

#237 Brain functions begin to occur in a fetus just 8 weeks after conception; right about the time many women have realized they are "late". (Based on your comments, I believe you may be an exception to this rule.)
#234 Abstinence is to abstain from (or to not have) sex. How can you say that does not work? No sex = no pregnancy (unless there is a lab visit or miracle involved).
#277 Murder is a bit strong. Since the law allows it, it is not really murder. You would be correct in saying killing, but murder is an illegal and unjustified killing; abortion is not illegal.
The big point of this FML is that the OP was in an abstinence group, and is pregnant. Regardless of ones stance on the Pro-death/No choice issue, the hypocrisy of this situation is rather funny. ;)
could be a crackhead dat gotta hold to da wrong stuff
#294 - On 11/13/2009 at 3:10pm by YNasty
I wanna know where da gold
umm actually prolife does exist. if you view the fetus as a life, you are pro-saving it. and i know plenty of people who are pro-abortion. i know ppl who have no prob getting an abortion and see it as a valid option. it's all about opinions, and each side should be able to put their own label on it. if you're pro-choice, you should be able to call yourself that, and no one should force you to call yourself "pro-death," same goes for someone who is pro-life. don't be ignorant
That's real talk! I always felt that way, even when I got knocked up! yes there are scary times, and yes your life changes. But I think I can actually say my life is better now than before I got preggo! Don't get it twisted, there are very hard hard hard times, but it's someone's life. I felt my son was a human as soon as I found out I was preggers, and I still do. I do get sick thinking about the children who've died, but children die everyday from all kinds of ways, so there's nothing I can do I guess. But yeah, what I meant to say was THIS! lol People really shouldn't get into such heated debates on FML tho...State your opinion and don't get all mean if someone disagrees.
BTW, did i mention that I'M CRAZY about my son?!?! lol I love him and miss him (he's at his grandma's right now) ok, enough. BTW, he's walking now and laughs ALL the time. he like doesn't ever cry....ok, i'll really stop now....I do have pics tho....lolol! Ok...am I the only one crazy about their little one? Just wonderin..

YDI for being a hypocrite.
277 - i wasn't condoning abortion. i don't personally believe in it, but having a baby isn't that simple. yes she can just have it adopted or give it away, but having the baby itself in america is not free, in england i would say fair enough, but the OP lives in america, therefore it is likely that she will have to pay to give birth. if she is at college like it is implied, she probably can't afford to - yes that may not be an excuse for 'murdering' a human life but every situation is different.
as she is part of an abstinence group it is probably also likely that her family is religious, i go to a faith school and sex education focuses on abstinence, rather than contraception - so maybe she was clueless? i don't know. as well as the circulation of urban myths regarding sex and pregnancy, it is possiblke that she thought she wouldn't get pregnant.
if her family is very religious, she may be ostracised by her friends and family and be isolated from th people she loves for the rest of her life - and hiding a pregnancy and lying would take its toll on her.
if she is using abortion as a form of contraception, then yes, it would be wrong - she would also miss college for quite a large proportion of her pregnancy, therefore affecting her education and her quality of life for herself and her children in the future.
but abortion is legal for a reason so don't make those who have had abortions feel like murderers because they felt they had no other choice.
until you are in that situation for yourself you have absolutely no right to judge on the matter whatsoever.

actually i think thats a YGF You Got Fucked
#224: It's all about the time the child is aborted. If it's not in the main stages of development it's not really that human. Also it is killing per-se, but think about it, what kind of life would that person have if he/she is kept alive? Generally a woman would have an abortion if it would be a bad environment to raise a child. Everything in life is about perspective.
"All things are subject to interpretation; whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth."
-Friedrich Nietzsche
#316 - On 11/17/2009 at 2:17pm by WNz
#276: Rep++
#317 - On 11/17/2009 at 2:26pm by WNz
lol what, that sounds like the dumbest group in history
i guess thats what you get for being a hypocrite.
Damn it, Bristol!! Now I'm Never going to get to be President!
Agreed. Way to be in a club in which you don't even keep your own pledge. YDI for being a hypocrite and not keeping your legs shut.
I suppose...
you could say...
that this lady...
[puts on shades]....Just got screwed
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Mwhaha. Have you bee saving that one?
Dropped her standards, dropped her pants.
sucks to be you but oh wait it was your fault! unless it was rape which I doubt.
Or it could have been immaculate conception...
It's your own fault, really.
um, how is this FML? it's YOUR fault.
#7 - On 11/11/2009 at 3:05am by kindness
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Loose morals?
Don't worry, it's a common for females.
Being a douche?
Well, you might want to worry, but it's common for petty people.
i take it #9 is the leader of the abstinence party.
true, males never seem to have this problem
Exactly #81, I mean men NEVER do anything immoral, especially not stuff like the Holocaust, the Killing Fields or terrorism... oh wait
I hope you were being sarcastic :)
I don't think you can compare getting pregnant with the Holocaust.
sure you can... it just takes cajones and a lack of respect for those who went through that tragedy (nah, I'm just kidding, I know the holocaust poster wasn't trying to be disrespectful)
maybe the problem isnt clear because they cant get pregnant duhh.
it takes two to tango, but by society's standards, a women that has sex is a slut or a whore, and a man that dose it is just doing what a man dose so its okay.
of course men dont have that problem
we dont have vaginas
that means we cant get preggo
Men can get Prego. There's a jar of it in my fridge.
@172 you clearly know nothing about men, or being a man.
Brilliant, well done! I think you should go to paris and have your baby in a decent health care system!
Except she is eight weeks pregnant not eight months. Unless you are saying she resign herself to living in france for eight months, but idk who would go through that horror.
I think you need to learn how to read, #150. "....leaving for Paris with my college abstinence group for a year." Key words: A YEAR. If she could successfully hide her pregnancy, she COULD have he baby in Paris. 8 weeks is approximately 2 months. Which leaves approximately 7 more pregnancy months. She could go to Paris, have her baby, and still have 5 more months before her group goes back. However, she'll most likely be kicked out of the group and sent home when she has that baby.
ALTHOUGH, a year long trip to Paris for abstinence group? Why? What the heck are they going to do? Are they studying abroad? Hmmm...
Yeah Id still go...
They should be supporting more worthwile causes!!!
So screw em go anyway!
Did you just join the group to go to Paris? I bet you were hoping to bang a French guy there too.
YDI
Another success for abstinence-only education! Perhaps if you had ever learned how babies were made, you'd have been a wee bit more careful about what you got up to. At least you've already gone against your supposed principles, so that you won't be too torn up if you decide not to carry to term. Got that sticky ethical wicket dealt with a couple months ago. YDI.
To be fair, OP never said she received abstinence-only education, simply that she'd joined an abstinence *group*. It's rare, but there are some people who are fully educated about sex and still choose to wait. (Although OP was clearly not one of them...)
Sorry OP, but YDI. If you were going to join an abstinence group, you probably should have planned to be, well, abstinent.
So now what? Are you going to join a Pro-Life group and have an abortion?
I hear it involves a baguette.
FETUS SANDWICH ONOMNOMNOMNOMNOM
paris for a college abstinence trip? Christ, you'd be better off going to the Vatican.
Agreed. That's like Amsterdam for anti-drug trip.
Alright kids, here's today's lesson:
Abstinence =\= virginity
She could have decided to turn to abstinence after having had sex. That being said, those abstinence retreats inevitably become an opportunity for people to hook up anyways.
The college group thing makes it seem like something to which she's committed a certain amount of time, though. Even assuming this is her first semester at college and/or first semester in the group, there's a pretty high probability she was preaching abstinence while being sexually active, based on when college semesters typically start. Even if not-- somehow-- the irony factor is way too good for most people to pass up. I suspect the lesson is going to be wasted just because of that.
1) She joined the group and was a member for a while, but decided to have sex anyway. YDI and she doesn't belong in the group, nor does she deserve to go to Paris with them.
2) She joined the group after having sex. Since she is only 8 weeks pregnant, she joined close to immediately after having sex. Which means she joined only to take advantage of the Paris trip. YDI and she doesn't belong in the group, nor does she deserve to go to Paris with them.
Y really DI. When they said it was an abstinence group they meant all sex, not just protected.
That's exactly what i thought of too!
Maybe she got pregnant while making out in a hot tub
i mean the hot water makes them swim faster right?
are you Carrie Prejean perhaps?
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YDI
You could always blame it on an incubus.
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Get an abortion, problem solved.
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Yeah, that is a great idea. Because then not only would she be a hypocrite, she would also be a murderer.
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She could have it in France and just throw that crying fetus in a garbage can
Next time you might want to take your morals more seriously there OP.
Why would you join an abstinence group if you knew you don't want to be abstinent? Wtf?
Maybe she had a burning desire to be the poster child of what the abstinence group doesn't want you to do. Haha. When are people going to learn, abstinence only has been proven not to work. Education is the best way. "The Education of Shelby Knox" is a great documentary on this. (Quick run-down. Lubbock, Texas does abstinence only education and isn't even allowed to tell the students a thing about sex but, "abstinence till marriage". Teens get bored, and in the words of Jimmy Buffet, "Get drunk and screw". Lubbock has something ridiculous like a 2/3 pregnancy rate and double the national STD rate.
Thanks Okie, I'll definitely check that out!
Hypocrite. You're going to have sex but you're also going to preach to other girls about being virgins?
xD you should probably now promote safe sex instead of abstinence. We all know that doesnt work.
#32 - On 11/11/2009 at 4:00am by hk
YDI for pretending you're something that you're not. Karma wins.
...should or shouldnt...why the hell would you want everyone at college to be abstinent?
Mutually exlusive means each term excludes the other. Therefore the poster is saying that abstinence should not occur in college.
oh FUCK. ive used that term for years to mean cannot exist without the presence of the other lol
that deserves FML more then being pregnant ;P
@OP
you deserved it for joining abstinence group
And you thought you'd get sympathy on FML why?..................
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#37 - On 11/11/2009 at 4:30am by IMB916
why...............would you even be in an abstinence group if you weren't going to commit to it. I'm just saying, what's in it for you if you aren't actually trying to abstain from sex? *confused*
i dont get it, your profile says youre 25, but your IQ says youre only 15, who are we supposed to believe here?
i really dont think someone this stupid is in a position to be insulting religion. on the plus side, people like you make me look smarter. so thats for that i guess.
Because mocking religion is a great way to make yourself look smarter. Why not learn about it (not saying you have to believe it) instead of making fun of what you don't understand?
erm.. this comment didn't mention anything about religion - nor did they mock it.
they just mentioned that abstinence is ridiculous
as it is - we are animals evolved from apes - it is not programmed in our evolutionary development to abstain from sex.
rant over :)
@196 i hope fml comments are fucking up again and youre just seeing a different comment to the rest of us, because there are maybe 8 words in that little diatribe that arent insulting religion...
if you are looking at the same comment as us you have major comprehension issues, and i suggest never working in an area operating heavy machinery or with the slightest form of responsibility. for everyone elses safety...
ooo it just fucked up for me too.
theres 2 comments here, one ranting about the hypocritical religious types and then mocking the idea of jesus dying for people yadda yadda - despite the fact that religion was never mentioned here
the second is about abortions, not joining the group and losing your passport so you dont have to go.
yay for the fml coding failing yet again.
yeah i commented on another one
feel like a bit of a twat now haha
but to the guy who was slagging off religion - why??
i dont believe in religion but people believe what they feel is true
get a life.
I can understand joining an abstinence group for a trip to Paris, but what exactly does an abstinence group do?
Nothing!
Damn, I wish I knew about this group when I was in high school -- I could have traveled the world! I was on a strict abstinence plan then, but not for lack of trying to violate it. Ugliness is the best birth control.
I guess their purpose is to bring their philosophy to the French people. The OP is going to be Exhibit A.
the abortion pill has been legal in the USA for a while, you can get it at many Planned Parenthoods. it makes the woman bleed heavily, cramp, vomit, etc. for 12 hours so most just go for the surgical (vacuum) kind.
#254 - On 11/12/2009 at 12:04am by expen_dable
to # 12, "anonacs", yes, because women get pregnant all by themselves.
BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
It's not the fucking... it's the "holier than though" we don't need no (sex) education attitude that makes you deserve this on every level. A couple of condoms and/or the pill would have made this exponentially less likely.
Lucky for you, France has one of the best healthcare systems in the world. 8 weeks isn't too late to get that abortion! ^_^
you will have a french baby, cheers
Abstinence works every time it is tried, since your not going to have" that time of the month" for a while, you can have the EPIC FAIL of the month award.
maybe you can show them your belly and what happened when you werent abstinent, thatll really scare the pants off of them!! but then again, thats not really what youre going for is it...
YDI for belonging to such a pathetic group
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Just tell your group that it is a Immaculate Conception.
YDI for joining an abstinence group in the first place. Sex is supposed to be fun, the human body is programmed that way so that we would make more babies, ensuring the survival of the human race. Although i disagree with sleeping around as that spreads diseases, if you have only one partner go right ahead and bang away. It is those fanatical zealots who are trying to curb the growth of the human race so that they have less of a job brainwashing who is behind all that propaganda. That being said, if you had joined them simply because they have the most benefits then i feel for you OP.
Aren't we over-populated as it is?
Birth rates are dropping in most developed countries. It's people in Africa who breed like bunnies that cause overpopulation.
Tell them that God appeared to you and said you're going to have that baby. Abstinence. Only 99.9% protection against unwanted pregnancy.
y belong to a group if u dont believe in u lil cheat!!!
Way to go ho! Next time keep your legs closed, or at the very least, use protection.
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I'm extremely pro-choice, so while I am a firm believer that having sex is solely your choice and the person (or people) that you do it with . . . having sex and yet being part of some abstinence group? Wow, you are totally a hypocrite.
Nice one for not sticking to the whole daft abstinence thing. Abstinence is ridiculous. The smart thing to do is just use contraception & have as much sex as you like.
#58 - On 11/11/2009 at 6:55am by Mutsumi
Just say it's immaculate conception. They'll make you their leader and worship the baby. :D
I should join an "abstinence for everyone else" group.
But seriously, what the crap would you do abroad for a YEAR with an abstinence group??
You could just tell them that G-d got you pregnant... the abstinence only crowd might believe that one.
YDI for being in an abstinence group.
Oh tell them you cought the baby on a toilet !
#64 - On 11/11/2009 at 7:11am by 4ube
YDI...get a prophylactic. That and karma bites.
what are you the virgin mary? no
dont bitch dumbass
YDI totally honey, for opening your legs.
shit happens, look at you.
Welcome to France !
Even if it is far from perfect, the health care system is good here and even if as a foreigner you have to pay (I guess), it is far less expensive than in the USA.
So please come anyway and make your choice : you can have the child, get an abortion (careful, if your health is not in danger, you only have four weeks left to abort), or allow your baby to be adopted after giving birth. In that case, I believe it is totally free of charge. You can even choose to remain partially or completely anonymous (even for the doctors) : it is called "Accouchement sous X" (look it up in the French wikipedia if you want to know more).
Good luck, and have a nice stay in France !
Alek
"college abstinence group"?? I'm sorry, but that's just stupid. And you clearly don't even take it seriously! YDI
At least now the group can use her as an example for what not to do!
HA! Take that, abstinence! YDI for being a hypocrite. Go get yourself an abortion.
Hmmm I call bullshit. She's pregnant and going on an abstinence only YEAR long trip to France of all places? It seems a little too coincidental for me. I have only heard of a few abstinence only groups and not one who takes a year long trip (as a group) anywhere.
OP if this is true YDI! Obviously you have access to the internet and can't be completely ignorant about diseases and pregnancy (as abstinence only usually promotes the fact that sex spreads disease). You could have just googled and got information about how to practice safe sex if you didn't know. Instances like this are preventable if you use your brain a little more.
There's nothing wrong with abstinence, but you gotta practice what you preach.
YDI for being a hypocrite.
did you sleep with the guy who thought makeup was birth control?
Enjoy Paris! It's beautiful this time of year.
#74 is right on! Those two MUST have gotten together! YDI
Okay, getting pregnant out of wedlock, not so bad. Lots of people do it these days.
Having sex before marriage? Also not a big deal. Only the real fundies say that's bad anymore.
But joining a group of people where you make the promise to abstain before marriage, and then not only having sex but also being dumb enough to get pregnant?
You totally deserved it.
I agree with this mostly, except it's possible she did use protection and got pregnant anyway. Condoms break, and Plan B can be frighteningly difficult to obtain.
plan b is frighteningly difficult to obtain? since when? you can go to any clinic, planned parenthood, pharmacy to get plan b. the pharmacy is the only place that will charge you the full $40something, anywhere else can provide it for free or a lower rate if you are over 18 (or whatever age the consent may be where you live).
YDI for being an hypocrite. You know what? 8 weeks pregnat you can still get an abortion in France.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
#85 - On 11/11/2009 at 8:40am by Carbonchild
first of all she could have been raped you don't know that. Just because it's not stated didn't mean it didn't happen. so before you people go around judging this woman, learn all the facts. now maybe she had sex before marriage but most people do. so she was a hypocrite, most people are that also. get the fuck over yourselves and leave her alone.
if she was raped i don't think she'd write about it on f my life, i think she'd have biffer problems. and it's not that she's had sex, it's that she's in the abstinence group. she obviously doesn't believe in it, and it doesn't seem like she believes in safe sex either. YDI
Not too bright are you daddysgirl?
when you get raped they give you something to make sure you don't get pregnant normally and they don't ask they did that to me when I was 15. and i wasn't some where I wasn't suppose to be.
They may have been willing to do that when you were 15. But, anymore, to cover their asses, they aren't going to do anything medically unnecessary without consent.
i was 14 and i was raped. i never told anyone. not even my parents so no one ever knew to give me anything. i didnt get pregnant but i could have.
You're going to France to teach them your sexual ethics which are both child-like and ineffective (obviously)?
I hope while you are there, you can teach the natives about fashion, cuisine, art and maybe if you have time, French!
For anyone that attacks another poster.. The OP put herself up here knowing full well there are MANY different opinions in this world... With that said... go to France and stay their please.. our welfare system surely doesn't need another lying dumb b*tch taking advantage of 'the system'......
Hypocrites FTW! Glad karma came back and bitchya. ;D
fyl that sucks but go and enjoy Paris!! might as well and then either have an abortion or become the poster child of why not to have sex
Whats wrong? Its not like you are the first lady in your religion to be pregnant without sex. Change your name to Mary.
What kinda moron says that you don't deserve that crap?
I don't know what's the biggest reason to give you a YDI on this one... Getting pregnant while you're in an abstinence group, or joining said wacko abstinence group in the first place.
Ouch! Looks like you really blew it!
Oops, bad choice of words. If you only had blown it, you wouldn't have gotten preggers.
If you were really loyal to your cause, you would have taken it up the ass "for the team."
You can turn it around and use it as an example of what can happen.
I'm curious though, who, in their mother loving right mind, would think it's a good idea to turn a bunch of uptight college girls loose in a foreign country for a year? Are you trying to wander around France to spread your views? I'm sure THAT will go far to improve Americans' standing in the French eyes.
Firstly @ 4 EPIC WIN!! Best post ever!
Secondly @ OP um sorry but I have no pity. Your pregnancy is your own fault (and the guy who's the father, you do know who the father is I hope) I suggest abortion, it will probably be cheaper in France. The fact that you are in an abstinence group only adds some cruel irony to the story that is very amusing.
Here's a theory!!
What if the OP had meaningless sex with a guy 8 weeks ago. Then she decided she was sick of doing that and joined the abstinence group to try to start over and wait for marriage or whatever... So she joined and they happen to be going to Paris, so of course she was all about that, and now she is pregnant!
I'm just saying... it could of happened!
I agree that abstinence groups are pretty freaking dumb too.
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You do it deserve it, but don't abort the baby. Explain what happened and go for as long as you can. Have fun in France!!
#114 - On 11/11/2009 at 10:09am by mizu22
Tell them that an angel visited you 8 weeks ago, and now its your turn to give birth to the next Jesus.
YDI for being a hypocrite.
Wow you didnt want to waste any of those unborn kids on your face huh?
Try pulling out next time. Get some RU486 and a coat hanger
YDI for being a hypocritical slut. Abstinance means NOT going around putting everyone's peen in your hoo-nanny.
^^YES!
That sounds like a boring trip anyway
who are you to say that she's a slut? maybe she's only slept with one guy. does that still make her a hypocritical slut?
besides, if she's getting pregnant while in a college abstinence group, she likely didn't have any intention to remain abstinent anyway, and would thereby only enroll in such a group to appease someone else. parents, most likely, especially if they're paying for her college.
If she had no intention on being abstinent, why would she be in the group?
appeasement, as i previously stated, or societal pressure. people do things that they don't want to and don't have to all the time, simply because the way society pushes them into thinking that they DO have to do it.
hypocrite. yes she is.
but she's a slut because shes pregnant which has to mean she's slept with numerous males????
you're a idiot.
lmao no it doesn't, what fucking magical fantasy land do you live in where a girl can only get pregnant when she has sex with multiple guys? where do you come up with this shit
Maybe she got gangbanged, who knows... But realistically she probably just does her BF and he forgot to pull out on time
yeah or a broken condom, ineffective birth control pills, who knows. all sorts of weird shit can happen that leads to an unwanted pregnancy. none of us can make a judgment on it without the full story, unless you're an idiot blathering about how she's a whore for it because how dare she have sex ever.
I like girls with loose morals and low standards
YDI.
I wish those idiot Christians would stop teaching abstinence is the only way to prevent pregnancy.
Well technically it's the only absolute way. Contraceptives aren't completely failsafe you know.
sure, but teaching abstinence only is dangerous since it's not going to stop anyone from having sex anyway. it's better to inform them that sex is perfectly natural and since you'll be doing it anyway, at least use contraception. otherwise you end up with an uninformed populace and a bunch of pregnant teenagers, like i had in my high school.
at least you're liberated from the general ineptitude and stupidity that shrouds the concept of willful abstinence~
Are you trying to claim immaculate conception here or did you just fail?
Get an abortion in France.
college abstinence group?!?! hahahaaahahahahaahahahahaha. that must blow
OK, first a abstinance group sounds bore second why u still in it if your fu**ing!!!! lol!!!! and why would a abstience group go to france its all sex!!!!!
lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Abstinence, ur doin it wrong. :P
Seriously though, stop being a hypocrite and grow up. You should have either quit the group, or quit fucking. Now you're going to be stuck in France for a year with people that know you're hypocrite. Have fun with that one.
LOL
OMFG.
YDFuckingI. xD
Seriously? Wow, it's like women are bred solely to end up being whores or something, thanks for reinforcing that theory, OP xD
all of yall are stupid.
#140 - On 11/11/2009 at 11:37am by fml2291
What does an abstinence group do in Paris of all places for a year?
seriously? wow, it's like morons are bred solely to end up being misogynistic dumbasses or something, thanks for reinforcing that theory, internet superstar "failuristic"
When I was in college, I went to an abstinence group meeting just to laugh at the prudes. Boy, was I wrong! To them, sex means penis+vagina and nothing else.
They had all kinds of posters and video discussing the benefits and techniques of anal and oral sex.
I had to go home and crank one off before the live Dirty Sanchez demo began.
It's a simple problem with a simple solution; get an abortion. Then have a good time in Paris and use the goddamn pill.
why would you join an abstinent group if you're not abstinent? that makes no sense. ydi.
i'm calling her a slut because MOST of the time, you don't get pregnant the first time you have sex. So, i'm assuming she's sleeping around. Even if she does have a boyfriend, she should have either not had sex, or not joined the group. Appeasement is not a good enough excuse - if she wanted to be sexually active, she should have the guts to stand by her decision and not be a hypocrite.
For the record, I think the word "prude" is stupid and see nothing wrong with abstinence being an option. Too many girls are becoming sexually active waaay too soon because of societal pressure to just "do it already". I myself am still a virgin, and I'm proud of it. Since the OP is in college, I'm not condemning her for having sex, only for being hypocritical.
i think you're understating the value of appeasement here. this is just a theoretical scenario, but bear with me for it. it's not unreasonable to accept that her parents could be paying for her college, but with some conditions, namely that she adheres to their morals or whatever and remains abstinent until marriage. given that, most full time students are incapable of paying their own way through college without crippling loans, so in this case what would she be expected to do? sure she could excise sex from her life but i find it'd be unreasonable to expect that she should have to give up sex just so she can get an education.
alright, throwing aside the theoretical, because honestly it doesn't have that much weight here, i feel like you're being too critical by assuming that she's sleeping around just because she got pregnant. far too many people in monogamous relationships end up with unwanted pregnancies, and for all we know, her sex life involves her and a boyfriend having sex on a regular basis. if that's the case, she's far from a slut and you'd be unfairly judging her.

I agree with kids being forced to do it too young. I lost it a week before I turned 18, my sister lost it when she was 13 traumatized her self, and is now scared of sex / seeing a councilor cause it was just too much for her to handle. from what she told me she knew nothing about sex, but our parents put her on bc thinking it would just be a good idea. so she knew she could do things, a guy talked her into it she didn't really know what sex was that it was just pleasurable and it traumatized her. even at 17 it was still weird for me. I didn't feel right for a few days after, but it soon cleared up. if I was younger I could see my self kinda getting creeped out.
( my edit time ran out) also you can get pregnant on your first time. it happens a lot cause girls think they can't don't use protection and get preggers. also she mite not have been sleeping with many guys just one, she could have a boy friend and be sleeping with one person many times. I am still with my first and engaged to him, so its highly possible she has one bf, that she slept with. or she has had two bf's in her life time and the current one got her pregnant. just cause a girl isn't a virgin doesn't mean she is the town bike
I know what you mean. My girlfriend was repeatedly raped when she was 12. It went on for about a year while she was at a private school. She never told anyone because 1) she had no idea what they were doing to her. And 2) when she finally started to understand, she was too scared to tell anyone. Even one of her teachers had sex with her, but as I said, she never told anyone, and it's now too late to do anything about it. They were the only ones that knew, so there's no case. Just the word of teacher vs. pupil.
I'm actually the first person she's ever told, and more than likely the last. Although, unlike your sister, she's not scared of sex, or anything to do with it, but she does have trust issues with some people. The people that did it were people she trusted, and they used and abused that trust, so she doesn't let people get as close to her as other people would. I'm one of the very few that she does trust 100%.
But to the OP...YDI for being in an abstinence group and having sex, unprotected or not. The whole point of abstinence is NOT having sex. No sympathy from me on this one.

i can make sex for you and your sister REEEEAAAALL nice!
You'll be able to get an abortion easier and cheaper in France. Stop worrying so damn much.
God, I'm so happy I'm a guy...
YDI for being a hypocrite, but I will give you props for being living proof that abstinence programs don't work. Think of all the taxpayer dollars that are thrown at abstinence-only sex ed programs...programs that have been PROVEN BEYOND ANY DOUBT TO BE INEFFECTUAL....and then think of all the kids getting pregnant. Abstinence programs don't work...it's been shown that girls who have participated in abstinence programs are actually MORE likely to get pregnant, not less. The only reason these programs exist is that they make parents and religious groups feel better; other than that, there's absolutely no reason for them to not be scrapped as a waste of time and money. And this waste of money is courtesy of the "fiscally conservative" right-wingers. Thanks, guys.
You're a dipshit. You choose to have sex, then get knocked up and you bitch because you can't go to Paris with your abstinence group. Stay in the states, save that money and use for your kid dumbass.
I'll give you a hint about what you should do, and it rhymes with shmashmorshion.
YDI for being a hypocrite, an idiot, and being in an "abstinence group".
#161 - On 11/11/2009 at 1:02pm by deaditegirl
what a great role model! you really are hypochrite. Abstinence only works when you practice it, preaching it doesn't count. Congratulations for ruining your life
Wait. COLLEGE abstinence group? Now they don't want adults having sex? Give me a break...
wait so a coed abstinence group is going to the city of love for a whole year and they expect everyone to stay abstinent the whole time? fail
Don't you know what "abstinence" means? Idiot.
Like I said about a comment above. Yeah, an abortion seems like a great idea, because if she is already a hypocrite, she might as well be a murderer too.
abortion ain't murder yo sorry but thanks for playin anyway~
abortion isn't murder its denying a child to be born and live. I used to like abortion but then some one asked me how would you feel if your parents aborted you. I though about it and the though hurt (I know if I was aborted I wouldn't have the thought) I am pro adoption. if you did the crime do the time have the baby give it to a family that can't conceive and there you go. problem fixed. the baby lives, you don't have to raise it, and a family wanting a child has it. everyone wins.
the adoption system in america is totally fucked so it honestly is not that great of an option.
especially when you consider the general specifications of most people who end up with unwanted pregnancies. for the most part, they're lower class, and it would be ambitious to say that they're even hovering around the poverty line. given the immense cost of childbirth in the US and with no good insurance options for low-income families, what do you expect them to do? it's not about picking abortion just because it's a cheaper option, it's about picking abortion because otherwise you won't be able to survive.
besides, i hardly think it's fair to force women with unwanted pregnancies to carry out a full term, dealing with all the terrible things that come with pregnancy, and then the pain and financial burden of childbirth, because they made a mistake.
it is murder because that is a living human, though not fully developed, it has its own heartbeat, it has cells which are dividing, and it has human dna. last time i checked, this all constituted something living, and since it has human dna, it is a human, making it a living human. so yeah, i am pretty sure using abortion to stop the life of that growing fetus is murder.
and one more thing. you say it is not murder, well let me pose a hypothetical situation to you. let's say there was a pregnant woman who i saw walking down the street. lets say that for whatever reason some murderer comes up and kills her. now, the baby isn't even close to being full term, so it dies too. how come then that person would then be charged with double homicide. but wait, if the other decides to kill the baby it is not murder, but if someone else does, it is murder? that is a double standard.
Im pretty sure the double homicide thing only applies if the baby can no longer be legally aborted, not positive though.
#261 - On 11/12/2009 at 1:12am by flippingbunny
This is definitely not an FML. It's a total YDI. It was your choice to have sex, and it was your choice to join an abstinence-only group. Pick one or the other if you don't want to be a hypocrite (thought it's a bit late for that now.)
YDI like crazy. Nothing wrong with being abstinent; if you don't want to, that's your business. Abstinence groups or abstinence pledges, however, are likely to at some point just end up repressing your urges. And that can lead to you doing things that you might not want to just out of desperation.
Bristol Palin is an excellent example of how that backfires.
YDI.
The phrase:
l'hypocrisie
will serve you well over the next year...
Totally deserved, you fucking hypocrite. Those stupid abstinence groups go around and say how fucking wonderful it is to not have sex, how pure you are, how much more respectable you are than those of us who dare to have sex.
If I went to your college, I'd sit back with some popcorn, a spy in France, and laugh my ass off as this whole thing unfolded.
However, I know I don't go to your college, because my college isn't pussy enough to have some abstinence group shit. :)
wow...talk about irony...haha
YOU DESERVE IT for being stupid enough to get pregnant. IT'S 2009. NEWSFLASH: condoms and birth control pills/devices are easily available.
#2: You're extra stupid for being a hypocrite and a fraud. Yeah, practice what you fuckin preach, huh? Dumbass.
#3: What a stupid movement/club. See what happens when you preach "abstinence"? Ignorant dumbasses get knocked up (and/or infected with STIs)
Ooooooh, ouch.
Hopefully the guy was worth it.
good for you, you stupid bitch
This is what secret abortions where made for. XD
That's what you get for being a hypocrite :p Name the baby Sparkles for me?
Ever heard of condoms????????????
Haha bitch.
#209 - On 11/11/2009 at 5:28pm by AliciaContreras
That's what you get for being a fucking hypocrite. YDI for being with an abstinence group in the first place.
if you like to f**k that much why would you even be in an abstinence group.... you bring new meaning the saying "undercover hoe" lol gratz on da baby tho
You're right about only one thing: somebody did FYL.
YDI.
I've been reading FML for months now, but I created an account specifically to comment on this: you are an unbelievable hypocrite and you deserve all of it.
Unless you were raped (which considering how you posted about it on the internet I doubt) YDI.
I'm pro sex before marriage but have you not heard of condoms.
YDI for not realizing that being part of an abstinence group is ridiculous. Maybe you realize now that it's necessary to teach sexual safety. And learn to use a condom.
#220 - On 11/11/2009 at 6:54pm by risforrrrcuhh
What #220 said! Also, karma's a bitch. YDI. :D
Where does karma come into play here? People really need to stop using that word on this site. "Today I stepped on a piece of glass. FML" "LOLOL KARMA'S A BITCH!"
Dude, the meaning of karma is what goes around comes around. How does that not apply on this site?
#239 - On 11/11/2009 at 9:29pm by risforrrrcuhh
i agree FYL, but you definitly deserved it. can't teach a whore anything these days
OK since no one has even bothered to mention it, have you ever heard of anal sex? I'm sure you have but never considered it. If you were really committed to this "abstinence" group you would. Consider this: if you think anal sex hurts, imagine what childbirth feels like.
Bottom line-you can't have a butt baby.
OMG when did they change the meaning of the word ABSTINENCE?
Silly me, all this time I was thinking it meant NOT having sex.
Great job sport! Not too late for an abortion. Then maybe you can join an anti-abortion group and bring this web of lies full circle ; )
YDI, unless it was rape it was your choice.
It's totally too late for an abortion.
#242 - On 11/11/2009 at 9:48pm by bored690
It's entierly possible that she had sex, had a terrible experience, decided she didn't want to do it anymore, joined the group for support and then found out she was pregnant 8 weeks later.
Oh this is just too easy....
Great job lying to a whole bunch of people dedicated to avoiding having sex, one of the hardest things to do at their age. Whore. YDI.
hahahahahah serves you right for being a hypocrite.
#256 - On 11/12/2009 at 12:13am by laos2542
Just when did you join this abstinence group? O_o
Haha, are you serious?
I think I must repeat what somebody said once long ago:
"I swear, it's like some people post just to get YDI clicks"
ugh ugh ughgghhhhh YDI
anyone who would join an 'abstinence group' at all is really gross
but x100 grossness when they have sex while in it
eewwwwww ydi
Your a fucktard for thinking someone's gross just for joining an abstinence group. Just saying.
@OP: YDI.
You made the choice to have sex, and now you have to live with the consequences. Yeah we all make mistakes, but just like any other choice, if we made it then the consequences we deserve. Take responsibility and deal with your choice.
Oh and about all the abortion arguments, other than those select few situations like rape or when the mother would actually die when the fetus isn't removed, abortion is always a very selfish thing. It's either to hide what you did, or to avoid actually paying the price. Either way though, you are denying someone a chance to live life just so you can serve yourself. Sure they won't know the difference, but remember you all started life as an embryo and then a fetus as well. If we could go back in time and abort any of you I don't think we'd get any volunteers (and I know someone will probably say they wouldn't care, but that's really just cause they know this offer would never actually happen to them).
Yeah again, there may be a select few scenarios where the argument of abortion isn't so cut and dry, but the majority of abortions that take place are just a result of someone not wanting the baby or someone trying to hide the fact that they've been having sex. Though some will try to dispute that, or just insult me to avoid creating a logic argument, that really is the truth. Most people generally say running from your problems only makes them worse so it's better to just face them head on. Well, people who have sex and have unplanned pregnancies should try that.

That is fucking bullshit, just because you think so, it shouldn't happen? It isn't your life that will be ruined because of an accident, it's her life choice, so don't go and cry about shit like that and think you are high and mighty because you think you know the way of life.
As I suspected, just insulting me, not actually defeating my arguments, and that's because you can't. You know as well as I do that other than those few exceptions it is a very selfish act and a way to avoid taking responsibility for your choices.
I agree with 266 and I did just that! And my son will be one year old on Dec 2nd. Yah, at first it seemed like my life was ruined, however, it isn't ruined. it just changes. I changed. So what the old me that was "a ruined life," the new me thinks it's pretty damn good! My son has gotten me focused! I'm in my last yr of undergrad, made the Dean's Honor Roll for the 1st time and going to med school. And many many girls who've had abortions come to me and ask how i did it and how they're suffering from their decision. my bf's ex actually confided in me with her story of abortion, and it made me sooooo sad for like a month. I'm actually still sad when I think about it, so I avoid it.. Anyways, I wish someone'd try to tell me he's not a human...matter fact, try to say that to any pregnant mom! Plus, it's so weird that if you kill a preg woman, it's a double homicide....
Great to know you made the right choice for your little boy. I've never heard a story about a person regretting keeping their child. Sure some wish they hadn't let themselves get pregnant as young, but they still love the child. Even if you had to put the child up for adoption and not even raise him/her you would still be able to live life knowing that you made the right decision.
However stories about women who have abortions and later have regrets, yeah you hear about that all the time.
You probably don't hear a bunch of stories about people regretting keeping their child (as in not aborting) because, well, take a look at how many kids are in foster care. Not a pretty number or system at all.
You also hear a lot of people regretting abortion because of the stigma placed on them for being "baby killers" and all this other asinine bullshit.
abort that baby! We don't need any more whiny, shitty, ugly assed kids in this world anyway
NO SRS GUYS
I'MA VIRGIN
IT WAS JUST GOD WHO APPEARED AND WAS LIKE "WHAZAMM! BABY!"
#270 - On 11/12/2009 at 5:07am by Pwibble
Paris is real pretty. It's abortion time!
Why did you join an abstinense group if you're not absinent?
#273 - On 11/12/2009 at 5:40pm by kirbylikescake
YDI for being a whore.
Why don't you stop sucking dick for once and get money a different way, like maybe a job?
Anywho, I believe abortion is very wrong.
I'd have the baby and give it up for adoption.
wow this is one of those topics that instigates huge debates. lol. (:
it's annoying that people keep saying to get it aborted and to have used a condom.. the whole point is that she joined a frigging abstinence group, and she had sex. regardless of using protection or not, abstinence means NOT HAVING SEX period!! and no i don't think she should abort it because obviously she is old enough to take care of it since she is in college, and two it was her own stupid mistake that she should have to deal with for the rest of her life. i believe in abortion it is a woman's right, but i also believe if you are old enough to deal with the consequences then deal with it because you made a stupid mistake. and to somebody up there who said you can't get pregnant the first time and OP is a slut. you can get pregnant the first time. i've experienced it with friends and whatnot. so you're an idiot.
WOW, you are such a whore...maybe not but FUCK YOU for preaching that and the FUCKING yourself into pregnancy.
Maybe you should go preach about FUCKING SAFELY
Congrats on the baby. Pretty sure Mother Mary wasn't a virgin either when she had Jesus. Maybe it's time to reassess your narrow perspective on life, but don't bother with the Scarlet Letter.
Why would you belong to an abstinence group if you're sexually active? Doesn't really make sense to me.
we're not perfect & hopefully these people will understand that. good luck to you & congrats!
HAHAHAHA thats so funny. unless you got raped.
Abstinence-only education is associated with higher pregnancy rates. I thought that's why people did it? Since you're already into doing things that your peer group frowns upon, why not go have an abortion? At least then you'd be back to square one.
Wow. Thanks for making those of us who did abstain, are religious and are educated look bad.
YDI, I hope you have a beautiful little baby- did you know at 8 weeks the fetus can distinguish between hot and cold and reacts to pain?
Im pro-choice, but i don't like abortions. they should be used as a last resort. Whats important is you have the choice.
#299 - On 11/13/2009 at 6:23pm by QueenBee19
i'm pro-life, but i have a beef with ppl who tend to be pro-life. if you want the baby to live, you should support programs in place that take care of it. when i had my son, medicaid, foodstamps, and child care help us A LOT!!! Yes, I am still broke, but I graduate in may and am going to med school (well, i'm thinkin about doing Teach for America....not sure yet... If anyone has done TfA, plz let me know you're experiences! Esp with the application process)
If you think people shouldn't kill an innocent child, you should also believe that the innocent child deserves food, shelter, and health care whether or not their parents can afford it!
To OP, yes ppl on FML are harsh. They always are! Be there for your child and if the ppl in the abstinence group don't support you, they don't deserve to be your friend! It's easy to have sex and have a baby, so plz don't beat up on yourself too much! Most the girls I know that had an unplanned pregnancy do that, and I did as well and ended up with postpartum depression! (I'm better now, thank God) We should really support women in this situation because whether she has the baby or not, she has soooo much guilt placed on her and bares the brunt of the situation, much more than the guy.

Damn, Um.. Angelina Jolie had her twins in France, maybe you can have your kid there. Lmao.
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Don't worry, those claiming to wait have higher odds of getting knocked up anyway, so it's more or less expected.
You made a mistake. Don't take the easy way out because you fucked up. I just had my first baby as a teenager and I put her up for adoption. She's the most beautiful thing in the entire world and I'm so happy that I didn't choose to get an abortion. Think about what you're doing next time.
It's your own fault. That's what you get for being a hypocrite
#310 - On 11/14/2009 at 9:46pm by this_is_too_much
I dont think she is a hypocrite...she isnt telling people to abstain from sex, she's part of a group that claims to abstain from sex which makes her a lier. Also, i think she should have the kid if she wants or abort it if she don't. but yo, her life dose suck cus she's missin an awsome ass trip either way....Oh wait!!!! She can have it aborted with this new shot, yup just they inject it and you bleed the lil bastard out. I love science :) Now you can enjoy getting fucked in paris and continuing you life of lies !!!!yay!
if she is in an abstinance group, she most likely is against contraceptives and abortion. still, YDI for all that shit. face it, or get an abortion. your pick.
I am pro-choice, and I hate it when people say that the fetus is "not human." The fact that is in early developmental stages does not change it's species. It may not be a person with thoughts, feelings, and opinions, but it IS human.
YDI!!! And one word: CONDOM!
How did this turn into a debate on abortion....seriously and i thought it was silly to say that the enitrity of america is stupid. At what point did she say she was going to get an abortion?
and someone mentioned Sarah Palin, well all i can say about Bristol is that firstly her name is a brand of paint and secondly, atleast she didnt go against her religion and use protection.
lastly how is it any of your business what this girl does with her baby...? perhaps she wants the kid but is commenting on the horrible timing the conception is.
Perhaps even, she is married and is just a chaperone on the French Trip.
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