Too many negative votes, comment buried. Show the comment.

What do you mean poor dear??? It's totally her fault for not using contraception (or not properly) It's OK there are cures for this kind of stupidity - abortion. If you're not ready to bring a child into a wholesome happy family and provide financial support for this little kid being born then just don't do it. It's wrong.

Riiiiiiiight. Because 1) every contraceptive is 100% effective, and 2) it is, of course, ALWAYS the woman's responsibility to provide it.

#9 - I hope that was a troll comment and nothing more. No contraception is 100% effective. Too bad -your- mother didn't have an abortion.

OP - I'm so sorry that happened to you. Can't give you any advice without knowing details but good luck...

edited, replied to wrong poster somehow.

So, besides sex, what did you two have in common??? It sure was not verbal communications...

Too many negative votes, comment buried. Show the comment.

"No contraception is 100% effective"

I beg to differ. Ever hear of waiting until you're ready to have a baby? That's quite effective.

Hahah, #54 win. ;)

On average, the actual act of "waiting" isn't 100% effective.

Jesus' mother waited until marriage... look what THAT got her - a bunch of Catholics with her manic-depressive looking portrait hanging on their walls.

To #9: Wholesome healthy family? Holy shit, who the hell raised you? The Brady Bunch? The Tanners? Ward and Joan Cleaver? Those "families" are on TV, and no one repairs problems inside of a half hour. Everyday families have their quirks and have ways of managing that aren't compatible for other families. To each their own. If she decides to keep her baby, and I hope she does, that's her perrogative. I'm sure half of the people commenting on here were "oops" babies themselves. Ask your parents...they'll probably tell you they were in the 0.01% of the birthcontrol failures, the condom slipped, the condom broke, blah blah blah.

You know 9 is right, there is no reason for having an unwanted baby.
-contraceptive
-the morning after pill

and if all else fails
-abortion
-adoption

if you think "omg abortion is so wroonngg!!!!" then it's not FML, you're choosing to keep the baby.

You are completely right. Usually if parents don't want their children society doesn't want them either. Especially in America. Less than 2 percent of children get adopted beyond the age of 5 and a majority of those children that are adopted have blonde hair and blue eyes. Ethnic children, and children with disabilities are the least likely to get adopted.

I don't beilieve people ahve a right to have an opinion weather a woman decides to keep or terminate her preganancy if there is no father or any other support. 99.9% of the time people who are barking hte loudest about her situation are not going to do a thing to help her or her child, financially, mentally, or emotionally.

#54....Abstinence is not a contraceptive

Yeah well if you are incapable of using proper contraception, there is always the morning after pill, a great way not to get pregnant if the condom breaks, or you weren't using one in the first place because "it doesn't feel the same" according to the guy.

I don't care if my mom had an abortion, because I would never know or realize it so it's not really a threat, it's a fact of life. If I wasn't born I wouldn't know it because I would have never existed and never had the power to reason!

What's with all the crap about how she should have used contraception if she wasn't ready? I read nothing in that FML about how she wasn't ready, or that she's unhappy. Even if it was unplanned, maybe she did want the baby.

OP: Good luck. If he's just going to dump you out of nowhere and make major decisions behind your back that way, you're better off without him, and your baby may well be too.

Maybe she's planning on abortion. Doesn't mean she doesn't want to tell him so he can have a say in it...

Too many negative votes, comment buried. Show the comment.

dont compare this with mary its obviosly a different case!
waiting IS 100% effective! respect yourself and wait for the right one

oh and condoms dont do anything!

people where is your sence of morality! killing a baby is not gonna make things better, it is prooven that women that have their babies killed suffer from EXTREME depression some end up killing themselves

Bethoven was gonna be aborted

and who knows maybe your son or daughter is going to be someone very important, dont kill it!

think about it, don't listen to those heartless people who only think of themselves and not of others
everything in life is not easy just be brave dont be afraid to make a wise desition raise the baby, i know you are going to love her or him

spare us the sermon, 159. it is flat-out unrealistic to tell people to "wait for the right one!" bullshit. half the time people NEVER find the right one, so what are they supposed to do, die a virgin? as long as you're not having sex with every person you bump into on the street, it's your own damn decision who you have sex with and when. and condoms DO work, i used them for 2½ years with no problems before i got on the pill. as for "killing the baby," it's not a baby at 9 weeks. it's a fucking cluster of stem cells. and given the choice between killing a 9-week-old fetus and destroying the rest of my life? fuck yeah i'm gonna pick the abortion. also that is bullshit about women who have abortions getting depressed and killing themselves. maybe SOME do because they didn't know themselves well enough and/or didn't pay proper attention to the counseling you get beforehand, but not EVERY woman who gets an abortion regrets it.

"beethoven was going to be aborted"? yeah, well hitler was going to be aborted too. the fact is your child is just as likely to become a monster as it is a legend, but odds are it's going to become someone completely ordinary. if OP doesn't want to be saddled with raising a kid ALONE for the next couple of DECADES, it is LEGALLY her right to choose an abortion. save your preaching for the church.

well stated 163.

now, 159, since you clearly know SO much about proven facts, i guess it's a waste of time informing you that for a woman such as the "virgin" mary to get pregnant, a man must inject a sperm cell into her vagina, 'cause you already knew that. you OBVIOUSLY also knew that condoms get between the penis and vagina, thus preventing the sperm cells from getting into the vagina, making them VERY USEFUL.

i've always found it kind of ironic that the biggest proponents of abstinence-only WORSHIP the bastard child of a woman who clearly couldn't "wait for the right one" herself.

#54 wins.

"poor baby" my ass, she totally deserves it for dating someone in the marines... everyone, even marines know, that they are the most retarded people ever. better get that thing aborted.

ps, 159, while some post-abortion mothers may have depression and kill themselves, it's probably about the same number as the number of mothers who suffer from post-partum mania and kill their babies anyway

LMFAO, #77 FTW!!

People get so upset when they talk about abortion. "Abortion is murder" they scream, "you're murdering that poor innocent baby!" Well, that's probably the best thing that could happen. Its like the baby got a straight up auto-acceptance to Heaven. Oh that poor baby, missing out on all the suffering down here on Earth, only to be whisked away to Heaven - where it (technically it was never born so no gender, nope) gets to play all day with unborn puppies and eat cotton candy lollipops. Boy, seems like that baby is getting a pretty sweet deal.

Everyone is missing out on the true victims of abortion - the abortion doctors. God might forgive a woman a murder or three, but that doctor must be piling up sins faster than he could ever hope to repent for them. Don't worry about the babies, they're doing just fine up in Heaven, worry instead about the poor abortion doctors.

#166

FYI condoms are made of latex, heat causes latex to break! got it? so condoms arent 100% effective 11 out of 100 women get pregnant

therefor there is no safe sex
lets not forget about std!

don't believe me? ask a doctor

after reading most of these comments, i would like to know where the whole abortion idea came from, and where in the hell di y'all get the impression she didn't want the baby? its fml because she had what should've been good news, but was upset at the fact that he re-enlisted and left her. no where in her post did i get the impression it was a fml comment about being a single parent.
And for anyone to sit there and bash the whole branch of Marines, that's dumb on your part. They are the one's dying for your right to say that shit in the first place. You need to respect them, no matter how horrible a personal "civilian" decision they may make. You need to thank a Marine the next time you see one. Along with the rest of your damn military.

what the fuck? it is not manic-depressive, technically, i wouldn't call her married, back in those days being married was having kids, since she was still a virgin and she concieved jesus through the holy spirit, that is why we catholics have her "manic-depressive picture" on our fucking walls.

uh, yes it is, people just don't know what "waiting" means. see the RIGHT way to do things is to stay a virgin until you are married, then fuck as much as you like, that way, you have already stayed together long enough to know when to have a baby, "waiting" to most people, is waiting to have a fucking condom, which break some of the time, or the "morning after pill", or "pulling out" or those stupid rings girls insert into their vag, just becuase they are too horny to wait for marriage. so technically it is fucking effective.

you tell them. =D

oh what, so killing the child, and not letting it live at all is better then that?
just because the dad has gone, doesn't mean she's not going to care and love the kid.
people shouldn't be able to have the control to kill a defenseless baby.
It's murder. You wouldn't go up to any baby and just kill it there and then.
So why do it to it when its still in the womb? People should take responsibility for their
actions. Not just resulting to abortion just because they couldn't keep them selves in their pants.

Actually, 86, there are religious reasons. Not that I personally believe in them, but others do.
And she didn't say it was an unwanted baby.

Hi 163, who suggested little Adolf was going to be aborted?

"it's a fucking cluster of stem cells." Have you seen pictures of a 10-week old aborted fetus? Look, you might be comfortable with abortion, others are not. This doesn't put you on the high ground.

As usual, another almost heart-wrenching FML (come on, this could be devastating for the woman in question) has turned into a huge troll infested bitch fest.

#86 - actually you're not chosing to have the baby, you're chosing to have an abortion.

Keeping the baby, you don't have to do anything. having an abortion requires actually doing something.

Choosing to keep it means you do nothing? O_o Rofl. Who the heck taught you that?

1. ABORTION IS HORRIBLE!!!!! everyone deserves a chance to live!!!

why do people say this? maybe they tried for a baby? so stop assuming it was an accident.

Have any of you idiots arguing about how she should have used contraceptives thought, "hey maybe she wanted to start th family and he didn't." She did not seem upset about having a baby, her point in th fml is that the babys father just broke up with her before she told him the good news. Not every pregnancy means that the person is a dumbass for not using birth control.

193
The point is that condoms are usually effective if used right so they DO do something even if it sometimes breaks. I have been relying on them for about 2 years now( not saying I do that all the time) and it's been pretty effective for me. go ahead and ask a doctor and they WILL tell you that condoms aren't the most effective but they do provide some protection. You need to lay off all those logical fallacies and put some facts out. Everyone has their own beliefs and thoughts you're reasoning just doesn't make sense.

-insert evil laugh-

Deadbeat dads deserve death

Forcing a guy to pay child support for a baby he never wanted from the beginning is a bitch move. OP should tell the guy. If he wants to be there for her and her child, that's great. If he doesn't want to have anything to do with it, it's his right, just as the OP has the right to abort or put the child up for adoption even if he wants to be a dad.

The law disagrees. While he doesn't have to be *in* the child's life, he still would have to pay child support. You can't just back away and act like the kid doesn't exist.

#122 You're completely retarded,

Knocking a girl up and then running away from the problem is the bigger "bitch" move.

Do you know how much kids cost? An average kid costs 2 million dollars to raise till the age of 18. NOT including college. Do you think she's some sort of mega-rich person that's able to pay for that shit by herself? If she's in that situation I don't think she is. If the guy's willing to stick it in he has the liability of paying for whatever pops out.

&& for all those people talking about Abortions being wrong. My mother was going to abort me. And I would WAY rather be up in Heaven with those puppies and whatever and where everyone gets along than down here taking care of my mother, and knowing that I am the product of two lawyers high on acid at a Nirvana concert. [Btw, I'm not whining about my life, I absolutely love everything about it, and I love my mom, even if she is schizophrenic, but if she had aborted me I would be fine with it {of course I'd be in heaven and be like "FUCK YES! MOAR CANDY PLZ!" But you get what I mean}.]

If she can't handle the responsibilities of a child, whether for financial or personal reasons, she is given the right of abortion or adoption. The father has no such right. Why should he be forced to pay for a child he never wanted from the beginning? Nobody should be made responsible for another person's decision like that.

By the way, according to http://usgovinfo.about.com/b/2008/03/28/the-cost-to-raise-a-child-today.htm the average cost for raising a child is 1/10th that. While still a lot of money, exaggeration doesn't help your case.

exactly what i was thinking...why is it "was going to"?

You win.

*hands you a cookie*

Too many negative votes, comment buried. Show the comment.

abortion = murder though....

Too many negative votes, comment buried. Show the comment.

inb4abortion debate

The whole "waiting until your married" thing does not apply to everyone because not everyone is Christian.

FYI 97, not everyone who decides to wait is Cristian and pushes their beliefs on others (so honestly, I'm sorry if I sound pushy). Personally, I think the Bible is BS, and I get tired of people on here assuming everyone who wants to wait is a brainwashed uber-Christian with no social life, because that's not always the case. Some people are just worried about getting pregnant or want to give their virginity to someone they want to spend the rest of their lives with. I really don't get what's so wrong about that. If someone can logically explain to me why waiting is so stupid, then I'll be glad to listen, but so far, I have yet to get a reasonable answer. And yes, abstinence only education is super dumb, that's not what I'm getting at. I'm saying that the personal choice to wait while weighing all the facts seems to be the best option, in my opinion.

#108: There is nothing wrong or "stupid" about waiting until you are married. Like you said, it is a personal choice. And really, people like you are not the problem. You seem like a rational, reasonable person who made their decision and isn't trying to shove it down other people's throats. Now, its obvious (to me anyway) that Pastor_Rich is a troll. But there are real people like him out there who will yell "WHY DIDN'T YOU WAIT TILL YOU WERE MARRIED YOU STUPID SLUT BURN IN HELL ARRRRGHHH" until they are blue in the face, like its going to change something. I think what happens is that some people are so used to hearing *those* kinds of opinions that they unfairly judge people like you as being the same way.

i think premarital sex is just fine if you're safe about it. the thing that gets me is why are so many girls having babies with just boyfriends these days? why aren't people waiting until they are married to have kids? so many people i knew in high school have ended up as single moms because of this. that's not to say that if they were married they'd still be together, but i feel like people are a lot more willing to work to keep their marriage together than they are to keep a relationship together. and whatever you think, having a baby will place immense stress upon your relationship.

126, well put. I do think that is one of the biggest problems. I'm just trying to be reasonable. =)

I agree with 132 too. =)

YOU ARE SO BLIND!

people have sex when they aren't married... get over it.

#10 Get over it. that's so medievil, I think when you love someone and they love you back
and youre ready.. so what? (here in the netherlands they don't make such a big deal about things like that)

Anyway OP Im sorry for you, hope that you still told him, but he sounds a bit like a prick

I didn't say anything about sex before marriage I'm talking about having a baby before marriage without discussing it together!

And I quote:
Second, you should have been married so YDI.

...didn't actually indicate whether you were talking about having sex or having babies. You lose.

Too many negative votes, comment buried. Show the comment.

Abstinence is 100% effective.

tell that to Mary

lmfao

So is being gay, but something tells me that's not an option for you either =)

Too many negative votes, comment buried. Show the comment.

Yeah she can do whatever she wants now, but she better as hell not ask for money from tax payers.

Make sure the father is giving child support. Seems like he will be able to afford it now.

Too many negative votes, comment buried. Show the comment.

Don't worry the chances are quiiiiite high this person will be on government aid even with child support.

This is basically what these failures do. They breed, feed off others, and die.

Good lord, wtf are you people basing this on? FFS, bunch of assholes in this thread.

omfg i hate people who say that! im christan i didnt listen to that. not EVERYTHING stated in the bible is a rule or sin and if she was with her boyfriend and she loved him i think it was fine. sure she got pregnant but thats just a risk. Me and my boyfriend love eachother and we do plan on marrying. she has every personal choice to do that. dont try and throw religion in her face like that. thats completely unfair

Go and have someone shoot you, dickhead!

That's Pastor_Rich's way of saying "You don't answer to me, but I'll still pass judgment on you and hide behind god while I do it." Go write a sermon instead of web-surfing, if you even really are a 'pastor'. Jesus doesn't like the eff bomb, after all. *eyeroll*

Look up poe's law. People do stuff like this for fun.

I'll be sure to let the earthworms that will someday be digesting my epidermis know you think so highly of them. Piss off you God-fearing fool until you can learn to think for yourself and be responsible for your own actions.

Too many negative votes, comment buried. Show the comment.

Made me lol.

You've got a lot off fucking going around ;)

Too many negative votes, comment buried. Show the comment.

Props and blessings to the ex for enlisting, semper fidelis!

To you, though... like #22 says, there's a lot of cheating going on during deployments, I see where he's coming from. It still sucks for you though. Please, please don't abort, whatever you do.

At 50: Who are you to tell her what she should do? If she wants to abort, she can! Think of the baby, maybe they are not in the best situation and she can't handle giving birth then putting him/her up for adoption.

OP:I hope you still told him anyway! It might have made him rethink his previous plans. But that does suck FYL :/

So you're a Jody.. I hope you're fucking proud of yourself you heartless fuckface.

thank you thank you thank you! sick of all the negative comments :( yours was a nice breath of fresh air!!!

good one!

Wtf did this person just say? Translation? Moron

... I'd say absinthe is plenty effective. Drink enough of it, and... free abortion!

And who is this Sarah PAILLEN? Never heard of her. You're nuts.

Please, for the love of all things good, read a few books every now and then. Absinthe is a kind of spiced alcohol that is damn near 70% booze. Abstinence is -effective- not -affect-, and Sarah Palin is a right-winged hypocritical dingbat, don't take anything she says or does as anything besides politically inclined entertainment.

Gotta love your sarcasm ;)

If God said it is wrong, you are already judged, and nothing any Christian says can ever change that.

I am not judged by some random god if I don't believe. I cannot, on the other hand, deny the existence of stupid, judgemental people.

If God sent his One And Only Son to die for our sins, you are already forgiven, and nothing any of you Bible-thumpers say can ever change that.

wow, you sound like a bitch. First off, 9 weeks? coulda told him a little earlier. Second off, its not entirely his fault that she's pregnant. And you cant just "keep" him in the states at your will. He's a human being with freedom of choice. He's not your little puppet. I hate it when girls get this idea that they can control their man.

he has a responsibility to the child, end of story.

The pregnancy was accidental. It's really easy to not know you're pregnant until it's been 9 weeks. There is nothing here that makes me think she could've told him earlier. Hell, you see women out there who don't know they're pregnant until their water breaks. My aunt's friend didn't know she was pregnant until she was 8 months along.

"nd who knows what person thr baby would grow up to be?"
Yeah, who knows, your baby could grow up to be the next Charlie Manson or Adolf Hitler!!!
I hate when people use this stupid argument to put down abortion.

plus this poster writes like she is 12 years old, which kind of lessens the impact of her point. not that there was much to begin with. "who knows what your baby will grow up to be?" yes, because we're all fated to end up in some profession, or cure cancer, or something. if your baby is aborted, you'll never miss what could have been because you won't know about it. and it's statistically unlikely that your kid would ever grow up to invent something essential or cure cancer or do something other than just be a normal person.

besides "you never know what they'll grow up to be" implies that there is some kind of destiny, and if that baby has a destiny/fate/whatever then it wouldnt be killed either ebcause you can't mess with fate.

I am totally pro choice, but ffs, the baby's heartbeat can be seen in ultrasound from about the 5th week on. Get your science right or shut the fuck up.

It does have a heartbeat at 9 weeks, just developed enough to be heard by a doppler. But I concur. ABORT.

Can't murder something the size of an olive at 9 weeks. Ignore the heartbeat and just DO EET.

it's not really a murder if it's not technically a baby yet.

Besides, think of how miserable that child could be one day with a missing parent. This story has "depression" written all over for the kid.

Just because a kid is missing a parent does not mean it will be depressed. The OP could find another man, and raise it there. I've known people who feel rejected by their birth parents because they were adopted, or have parents divorced and moved far away so they never see them. None of those people are depressed. And I do believe that abortion is murder, just because it isn't technically 'human' yet does not mean it won't be, really. I only believe in abortion in circumstances where the baby will suffer if born, or it will injure or kill the mother.

Just because the video looks nasty doesn't make it murder. Ever seen a video of heart surgery? That looks nasty too.

totally agree with you 56.

umm because she had a get without being married, not saying thats bad i was raised by a single parent if they are able to then good for them. but also was apparently not in a stable relationship since he left her like that, and if she was ok with having the baby she wouldn't have posted this on FML...

It's not the baby, it's the breakup. Read it again.

"Big news" has a large positive connotation. Therefore I'm assuming she was happy to tell him about the baby. Which means she wanted the baby.

And then he broke up with her. Which sucks.

Maybe because adoption is not the piece of cake you make it sound like?

I'm just wondering are you saying she is a slut because of religious reasons? Or because of personal feelings.

To the OP I'm sorry he broke up with you before you could tell him, I hope you still told him and he stepped up to help.

I think you may need to reread...

weeks not months. he wouldnt have knows unless he payed attection to her attitude or other changes

once again, not everyone finds out before 9 weeks.

There's still plenty of time to abort.

this is a good point. look into this!!

Oh. Oops it looks like someone may have already covered some of what I said.
Eh. Whatev.

Now I am an Army girlfriend myself but I don't know much about this system...if he denies it, can't the military force him to take the DNA test? Meaning she won't have to pay for it?

That part, I have no idea. She would definitely need to know how to reach her ex's higher ups.

#130, yes, they will make him take a dna test. i'm in the army and have seen it happen several times. and at least if she decides to keep it, she gets free healthcare for it, and they take the child support straight out of his pay. maybe it was a blessing in disguise, cuz if he's that flaky, he may have left anyway. at least now you know that when the time comes, you will have financial and medical support. good luck, whatever you choose, that sux.

Thank u for saying that, I was annoyed by that too! It can also take awhile to realize you're pregnant because it's not exactly uncommon to miss a period w/out being pregnant at all. And some women miss periods all the time so they wouldn't even think anything of it if they missed one (until they realize they've missed like 3 in a row.) My sister-in-law didn't know she was pregnant until like 8 weeks, too.

I don't understand girls like that, every time you miss your period you should always consider the possibility of being pregnant especially if you been having sex within the last month or so. Take a preg test if you’re not sure, and when all else fails go to the doctor. (There really is NO EXCUSE! for being 2months preg and not realizing it.) The only girls I find more ridiculous than the girls who don’t know there 9 weeks pregnant, are the girl who do know and don’t bother telling the guy that he’s now a father. (He has a right to know, it just as much his kid as it is yours) ...Wait I take that back, the girls who don’t realize that they’re preg until there water breaks are the most retarded of all.

"you should always consider the possibility of being pregnant especially if you been having sex within the last month or so."

Are you implying that If i'm a virgin, and I miss my period, I should be taking a pregnancy test?

Also, certain birth control methods (depo) can stop a woman from having her period, or make her periods ridiculously irregular.

LIsten Unclever, the fact of the matter is that some women normally have very light periods and especially early in pregnancy you can have light spotting which would seem very much like your period. Some people's bodies just don't react to the pregnancy hormones quite as obviously as others. So maybe before you go spouting off and calling people names you should get a clue as to what you are talking about. The good news is that you are obviously so clueless that your opinion can be quite easily dismissed, so thanks for being so blatantly ignorant.

"Are you implying that If i'm a virgin, and I miss my period, I should be taking a pregnancy test?"

Wtf are you talking about? UncleverName never said anything of the sort. He said if you're HAVING SEX and you miss your period, you should take a pregnancy test, even if it's normal for you to miss periods. Which makes perfect sense.

#156 thank you for your comment, you saved me from wasting my time with her.

#145 Ellehcor I like the irony in you calling me ignorant, i’m surprised no one has pointed out the obvious stupidity in your comment yet. Despite that, “some women normally have very light periods and especially early in pregnancy you can have light spotting which would seem very much like your period.” I would hope those same women would be smart enough after knowing full well that their light periods can be mistaken as light spottings would go and take a pregnancy test regardless. It never hurts to be prepared when you know there’s a likely chance, and you will save the baby some pain by not being so clueless the process.

Ellehcor you obviously seem like one of those girls, so just don’t be too surprise when your water breaks.

You're a moron. Menstrual cycles can vary month to month. It could be very light for a few months before switching back to heavy. Women aren't machines meaning that, as biological constructs, they are prone to fluctuations in their usual cycles. And, for women who are even ten or fifteen pounds overweight, the bulge might not show for up to 12 to 15 weeks because the body will use up the excess fat to form the fetus. You can't always tell immediately.

If you think everything is always regular and predictable in humans, start measuring and noting the pH levels and color of your mucus, bile, semen, and urine for the next month as well as your dietary and exercise habits. Let us know if everything stays exactly the same and we can send an angry mob with pitchforks and torches after you because you're a bloody mutant.

Um, yeah, Unclever, keep living up to your name. Are these girls supposed to take a pregnancy test once or twice a week just in case? If their pregnancy has no signs it has no signs. And no, I'm not going to have any surprise pregnancies. As I already have a teenager and a nine year old and am quite done with childbearing and as a woman who has been through pregnancy I'm absolutely positive I understand it better than you ever could or will. But, please, keep spreading your blatantly ignorant commentary. It's entertaining, oh, and don't be surprised when you find out you've knocked up some poor girl and she (gasp) doesn't know it instantly the second it happens.

Unclever actually said that tthey should ALWAYS take a pregnancy test, ESPECIALLY IF

I'm not trying to get into a "who's right and who's wrong" thing here, but just pointing out: marriage is not a guarantee that the couple is going to stay together forever. Plenty of people get divorced, kids or no kids. And being fiancees is no guarantee either. Basically what I'm saying is, (IMO) marital status is not nearly as important as whether the two people involved are *both* into the idea of having and raising a child.

I'm pretty sure the OP wasn't TRYING to get pregnant. It was an ACCIDENT, dumbass.

Plenty of people don't try in their marriages anymore either. And I'm sure she did tell him. You only have so much room for text in FMLs and anyway, you get the effect of her point without her having to say she told him. He made a major life decision like re-enlisting in the Marines without telling his girlfriend and randomly breaking up with her two weeks before he leaves, so who's really insensitive here?

I may just be misreading your comment but are you saying she can't take responsibility or do you mean the other people believe she can't? Sorry I was just a bit confused by the wording.

I agree with you completely. She upset by the boyfriend leaving her, not the pregnancy. "You deserve being left by your boyfriend because you didn't use birth control" makes almost no sense. Two different topics but people keep assuming they're the same thing.

So I'm quite tempted to ask "what is your problem?" but that phrase is usually seen as aggressive when quite honestly, I want to know if something happened to make you so bitter? Or are you just trying to get a rise out of someone? Because if so you have succeeded because I'm not going to keep my mouth shut.

Waiting til marriage isn't "insane" it's a personally choice, and really, i think both options are quite valid. You can wait or you can not wait. Really doesn't matter much to me what others feel like doing, so long as they are taking care of themselves.

What I really came to ask was, where did the two options come from that you offered OP? Obviously she can either abort or keep it, but your second option angered me a bit.

Most importantly, who are you to say the kid wont appreciate any sacrifices that the mother makes? My mother took care of me when she could have been out having fun. She worked three jobs at once to keep food on the table and a roof over my head, and when that wasn't enough she swallowed her pride and moved in with my grandmother who was always bad mouthing my mother about one thing or another. Almost kicked us out because I was almost two and not potty trained. Do you think I'm not grateful for all that? Do you think I don't thank her for what she's done to me? Do you think that I wouldn't take care of her if she needed me? And if you realize that I appreciate what my mother has done, why is it that this child can not appreciate what their mother has done?

Also, who says that they wont get money from the father? Who says that the father doesn't want the kid? Just because he broke up with the mother doesn't mean he's going to abandon the baby.

And, just so you know, some people CAN'T easily get over an abortion. They get to caught up in the 'what could have been/would have been, etc.' They wonder, they regret. Some people it doesn't bother at all, but for some it's hard.

I'm still of the opinion that the mother wanted the baby, which makes abortion a bad choice.

Please thank your husband for me he is a good man. And I know how it feels to have a family member in the Marines right now, that is 20 years old.

He doesn't sound like anything. She didn't once say anything about what kind of person he is except for saying he re-enlisted in the marines. Yeah, he was leaving but he didn't know there was a baby.

It's called postpartum psychosis (an extreme form of postpartum depression) and teens can suffer from it too. PPD usually doesnt get to the extreme end where the mother kills the baby, but on the occassions that they do, its not because the mother is old. Its more likely, i think, because teen-moms usually have someone else helping them care for the baby. If mommy wants to kill the baby, someone else is taking care of it and protecting it. Also Postpartum psychosis is mroe likely if you have or have a family hisotry of certain phycological disorders like bi-polar.

Also, teen-moms are minors, and there are more laws protecting minors' anonymity than there are for adults.

Choosing to keep it means you do nothing? O_o Rofl. Who the heck taught you that?