Today, I told my mom I am bulimic and have been for a few years and that I need help. She responded by saying "Well that's clearly not working for you. Why don't you try anorexia." She then patted me on my head, smiled, and walked away. FML

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Well, your mom is a bitch.

Maybe she thought you were joking? And go ask someone else for help.=/

Ask someone else for help, because clearly you're mom's an uncaring bitch.
Keep fighting the disease!
Stay strong!

the irony! my mom just said something similar yesterday. I told her that I thought I had Anorexia and that i wanted to go into recovery, and she said "but you aren't skinny yet!"

i feel your pain OP, i feel your pain...

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The important thing here is that you admitted it - now go tell someone who isn't either mean or an idiot, so that you can get some help.

#6 you're not funny. you're insensitive

Its sad that when you mount up the courage and tell somebody(your very brave) and then they don't even care. I feel your pain.I suffered from anorexia for two years and still fight it, I told nobody, its only now I told my bestfriend and my boyfriend.
keep strong.
*hugs*

#6 and #10: STFU

Your mom probably has her period. And WTF at number 11 . .O_O

and then you vomit on her feet

Ouch, :(

What a jerk.

WTF. Your mom's a bitch. Don't listen to her and talk to someone who will actually hear you.

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Just because this hasnt happened to you doesnt mean it doesnt happen.. the world is a shitty place

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#4 - you THINK you MIGHT HAVE anorexia? It's not the fucking flu, it's a conscious decision. No wonder she didn't take you seriously.

OP: It's difficult for parents to understand when their children/teenagers are coming to them with a serious problem that needs serious assistance. She obviously thought that you were kidding around, and with the stigma of teenagers and eating disorders, that is unfortunately a reasonable conclusion to draw. Just sit her down and explain to her if it is a serious situation.

I think #6 is funny, but I agree with #8. Now is not the time for that.

#19 it's a mental disorder. it's NOT a conscious decision. you are probably one of those idiots that think that anorexia is a "lifestyle" that teenage girls use to lose weight.

:(

HAHAHA #6 you are a terrible person but its kinda funny (;

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Oh gosh. That happened to me two years ago, it really does hurt for your own mom to not believe you. Stay strong, tell your best friend or someone else you trust, and get some help. *hugs*

#21, I think that #19 is taking issue with the phrase "think I MIGHT have anorexia". If you have anorexia, you either admit it or you don't; if you recognize that your body isn't getting enough nutrition (objectively verifiable), then you bloody well know if you are doing so on purpose or not.

On the other hand, if you go to your mother and act as if some external force is either robbing your body of the food it needs, or if you say that you aren't sure if you are starving yourself -- well, it's hard to take the latter seriously.

#4: I THOUGHT I had anorexia...when I was 14 and wanted attention.

You're mom is an ignorant bitch. You deserve help, try telling someone who will listen to you. Maybe you can go to the local hospital or your doctor.

I'm sure she was just kidding. I'd go and talk to someone about it though. Your mom probably thought you wernt serious.

Anorexia and bulimia are mental disorders but usually you have to make an effort to do either. You usually make a conscious effort to not eat - anorexia or eat and throw up. The underlying issues are usually mental (low self-esteem or body issues) but to the people saying it's not a conscious effort are retarded. I choose not to eat a lot during the day and by all accounts would probably be considered anorexic. But it's a conscious decision since in both cases you choose to not eat or eat and throw up. It's like like OCD or bipolar disorder or something hereditary. It's a conscious choice based on your mental image of yourself.

Plus to the idiot saying anorexia is better than bulimia, you do realize that when you don't eat that you still need energy to survive and that energy is usually produced by your stomach effectively eating itself. And if not taken care of can produce ulcers which can in turn kill you. So in effect, F off since you obviously don't realize anything and aren't contributing anything valid to this discussion.

Disown that bitch.

thats terrible! go get some help, clearly your mum does not give a damn or maybe shes just joking, but this serious talk so someone who can take you seriously.

Hey listen, im a teenage girl, my dad studies nutrition and luckily i have a phobia of throwing up so i would never be bulemic but ive considered not eating and all you do when u do that is ruin ur metabolism, which burns the food you eat so ur body eats your fat and muscle tissue. And ur intestines fall out of place when u have an eating disorder. they crumble its disgusting ive seen pictures. Be strong, seriously ive talked to my boyfriend whos now my ex btw', said every guy wants meat on a girls bones.
I wanted a model's body i wanted to be like miley cyrus size but seriously, nobody wants "fat-free" girls. Just eat less sugars and try lifting weights 3 or 4 times a week. Dont only do cardio though because everyone thinks it burns ur fat, well it does but it stops when u stop. If you lift weights it burns while you do it and for 24 hours after you stop. You will burn fat like crazy if you do that. Dont give up life really is to short, we all F up but god loves us just the same. Turn urself around because youre body might be nurtientless but ur strong enough if you believe in yourself. Trust me.
We all believe in you!!

#26 you can starve yourself intentionally without being anorexic, there are tons of descriptive properties of anorexia that are more than just "i starve myself to lose weight" that psychiatrists consider. without even one or two of these symptoms, you could be categorized as something completely different (usually EDNOS)

maybe i worded it strangely, i don't know. but what i was implying is that i came to my mother looking for help and she just further pushed me to continue the habits that i was trying to stop.


and yes, the act of starving yourself is conscious, but no one starts with the intention of being an anorexic.

34, is Miley Cyrus really skinny or something? I never noticed... but maybe just because I'm not all up in that scene

its not just about being skinny, its a control issue.
and if youve never had the disease or dont really know what it is.
dont make stupid comments, your not cool.

Omg, that's hectic! Irrespective of any situation real or fake parents outta listen! I'm talking in general - not saying you're lying. Hope you can find someone who really hears you. Btw, how did you tell her? Sometimes i smile etc when telling my mum serious stuff just to ease the tension and she does check if I'm serious or joking? Anywho, sorry. All the best

hope she didnt mean it. when i told my parents about my bulimia my mom asked what was wrong with me. its a hard thing to go through. ive been there. check out my blog for posts on how im dealing. let me know if you want help, ill be here for you :) just leave a comment and ill get your email.

If this is true and you are actually bulimic, you definitely need to talk to someone, especially if your mom does not believe you. It sounds like you want help, and you need to get help because this is very dangerous, as I know that you know. I would suggest a school counselor if one is available. If not, I would tell you to call some legit eating disorders help line to set you up with help. It does not matter what your mom thinks right now because this is about you and your health. I'm sure she will eventually understand, especially once she knows more about bulimia. I hope that you will get help. Good luck, and I wish you the best.

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All of you are mistake about the difference between anorexia and bulimia. The only difference between the 2 disorders is the weight of the individual. If the individual is less than 10% of normal weight they could be categorized as anorexic. If they are closer to normal weight or even overweight they could have bulimia. Both disorder can include starvation, dietary restriction, and throwing up.

OP- tell her specificly what you have been going through maybe then she will take you seriously

That sux-hopefully ur mom just didn't realize u were bein serious since so many teens have eating disorders nowadays. Try sitting down and talking 2 her again and if she still dznt take u seriously, go tell a friend, teacher, guidance counsoler, or go see ur doctor. Stay strong and keep fighting *hug*

That's so messed up. All parents should take eating disorders seriously. If your parents aren't willing to help, you're going to need someone else to help you. Good Luck and I hope you get better!

hrm. I have anorexia. And I started out with bulimia. Bulimia doesn't help you lose weight... but it IS an addiction. When I became anorectic I realized my obsession had taken over my life completely.
In that sense, what your mother said to you REALLY stings, for me at least. Because these things are harder than most people would think. PLEASE get help. Go to the psych wing of your local hospital and make an appointment with a psychologist who will then direct you to the on-board eating disorder specialist. It's not as scary as you would think, it's helped me alot- given me the tools to help myself fight this.
Stay strong.

Get a new mom.

#24, you clearly don't understand what bulimia is. Many bulimics are of normal weight or are slightly overweight. Thanks for being a douche and reinforcing the causes behind the disorder.

OP: I think the problem here is that your mom, like #24, fails at knowing the difference between anorexia and bulimia. She most likely thinks that you are of normal weight and were joking about the bulimia. Perhaps if you explain to her that bulimics don't have the severely malnourished look of anorexics she will be more open to accepting your disorder.

that's a terrible mom! wow. im sad for you.

Wow, that's rude. Maybe she thought you were kidding since you don't look bone-tight skinny & malnourished like many anorexics do?
Either way, congrats on finally telling someone, but you should explain to her that you're serious or tell someone who will understand.

I don't believe this.... However, if it is true, i'm going to agree with # 41. Why do you care about what you look like/what people think of you?

#43:
Not quite. There also has to be uncontrollable urges to eat or binges of above-normal amounts of food.

HOLYMOLYCAPOLIE! -pats your shoulder-

#24 is a douchebag.

#48 is my hero. (:

Some other people have sort of mentioned this ... but something I had no idea about until I took a child development class is that anorexics are very thin, but bulimics are normal weight. Your mom is probably unaware of this. I know that if it was me you told this too, and I thought that bulimics were thin like anorexics, I would think that you just wanted attention.

Just try talking to her again. Sit her down and be serious. Show her a medical website with an explanation of the disease. She will listen.

this makes me so angry. it seems a far-fetched that somebody's mother would say that to their own child, but if this is true, your mom is a bitch. i've been dealing with anorexia for almost five years and it is not a joke. it is so much harder then people without it could understand, and it takes over your life and ultimately ruins it...so for your own mother to wish that upon you is just sad but talk to a psychiatrist or somebody who cares--you made the first step in admitting it.

aw, wtf thats horrible.

Your mom is an ass. Obviously she's not a good Mom

# 52 binges can also occur in both disorders

Get some self-control.

#43- bulimia is categorized as binge-purge. anorexia is fasting and restricting, they usually do not binge and purge.

anorexics that are not underweight are classified as EDNOS, not bulimics.

#60 you obviously don't know what your talking about. its not about self control its called an addiction.

Please dear get some help... Don't let you mom make you feel worse. And to be honest, many people who suffer from bulimia still are over weight(it is impossible to get the calories all out, and when u binge you take a lot more than you would normally), it doesn't work, and being skinny is not worth your health both mental and physical. I hope you get better.

It's stupid to presume that she is not a good mom just because she doesn't take her teenage daughter seriously. The daughter obviously doesn't look like the typical eating disorder victim. Teenagers rarely discuss their issues in a serious and mature manner, it is only natural that the mom would assume she is joking and joke back.

anorexia isnt neccesarily conscious... some people (like me) just don't eat very much. I eat very small meals throughout the day because i can't eat alot in one sitting... but with a busy schedule, like school or work, you don't get time to eat throughout the day, usually just breakfast, lunch and supper.. and because i eat so little in one sitting, it's comming pretty close to anorexia.
some people just cant eat alot in one sitting, but don't have time to eat alot throughout their day.
so there, in a way, anorexia isn't a conscious decision (depends on the scenario i guess)

I don't believe this at all.

41, shut up. You obviously don't know what it feels like or truly understand anorexia or bulimia. No one deserves this. And as for turning perfectly good food into barf, its not like the food would magically transport itself to a starving third world country if the bulimic didn't eat it.

I starved myself a few years ago. The reason I felt like I had to was because everywhere I looked, I saw something or other about how fat everyone in the "affluent West", America in particular. I'd hear so many assholes begrudging heavy people (or worse, Americans in general) for eating so much when others are starving. But if you deprive yourself, other people (probably the same ones, actually) will get mad at you for NOT eating when others are starving. Just thought that was ironic.

#61, anorexia has two sub types 1.) dietary restrictive type and 2.) binging purging type. Please review your DSM.

#65 It is absolutely ridiculous to compare that situation to an eating disorder.

i really dont believe that any mother would say that to their child.
but, sorry about that.

when i was younger i told my mom i was suicidal and i wanted to die and she told me it was all in my head. lolwtf

#41: I belive you need to read up on bulemia a little bit, and anorexia. Because you are a bitch. And I bet you probably over eat so don't act like you don't.
#42: How is this made up? Just because somone's mom doesn't believe them. SHIT FUCKING HAPPENS. Duhh. stop calling bs. And since this IS real, why would you be a bigger bitch and tell her to "stop being an attention whore and eat a sandwhich" It is people like you that make people kill themselves.
#66: SERIOUSLY PEOPLE WHY CAN'T YALL WRAP YALL MINDS AROUND THAT HER MOM COULD BE A HEARTLESS BITCH, OR STILL DOESN'T KNOW WHEN HER KID IS KIDDING.

Gosh, sorry for the all caps but sometimes when people call B.S over and over again it is really annoying.


You really should try to get some help.
And I wanted to add this to the little discussion: Body Dismorphic Disorder is also the problem many Anorexics/Bulemics arise. No matter how "beautiful" or "thin" you are to other people, you are never that way to yourself. And it isn't just the case of simple low self esteem it is much, much worse.

I am having a real hard time believing this is true. Its just hard to imagine any mom being that coldhearted. If it is true then, WOW. You need to get the hell out of that house, your mom obviously doesn’t care that much about your well being and you'd be better off without her.

omg thats terrible
you should defintiely get help
there are lots of ppl out there willing to help ppl who are trapped
your mom doesnt sound like one of those ppl
remember this forever bc when shes stuck and needs help you can use this against her
this is just wrong :(
im sorry

seems a little exaggerated...

what the fuck is wrong with her?
shit like this pisses me off.

maybe try writing her a letter, explaining that you were serious.. or go to someone else for help if she doesn't give a fuck..



.. good luck

Kudos for seeking help. But I really hope you're close to being 18, because you're in a very toxic situation. Good luck with everything.

What the fuck? I'm sorry, but your mom sounds like a dumb bitch.

im 15 years old and have been struggling with anorexia/bulimia for over two years. the public understanding of these illnesses is, frankly, disturbing. anorexia/bulimia are illnesses of the mind; you don't CHOOSE to be afflicted with them. trust me, i want nothing more than to rid myself of them, but it's extremely hard; comparable to quitting smoking, or drinking, i might even say. please, don't judge people like me, or the OP. we're not bad people; we're not selfish. We're sick, and the vast majority of us would give anything to be cured, but it's not that easy.

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BITCH.
I'd fucking scream at her & tell her the same goddamn thing!

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@#82
You're definitely going to hell.

Go read a medical journal about bulimia or something. Realize how wrong you are.

People have extremely different mind-sets.
Just because you were able to quit smoking cold turkey (congrats, what an achievement?) doesn't mean anyone can do the same.

#82: you can't compare bulemia to smoking. you smoke by choice and it keeps being addicting because of the things in it. not the case with bulemia, and you don't have to be a bitch about it. maybe you shouldn't have stopped smoking.
and #83: why can't people wrap their brains around a mom being a bitch to their daughter, or thinking the daughter was joking?

She probably meant "...try anorexia, like me."

At least you realize you have a problem. Your mom is too clueless to realize she has one.

And #85... yes you can compare smoking to bulimia. People doing each know it's bad for them and they should stop, but they can't. They're very similar, like any addictive behavior.

I think it's interesting that the same people here claiming that eating disorders have no relation to wanting a certain body image are the ones who called the doctor in a recent FML unprofessional and insensitive for telling a recovered bulimic that she was overweight.

85: if she was being a bitch, then she wouldnt smile & pat her on the head. its made up.

No, seriously... Can such fucking assholes REALLY exist ?

Did you consider having a DNA test to check whether that moron can be your... hem... "mother" ?

I'm really sorry for your FYL.

she probably thought you were kidding.
My mom would probably do the same thing, until she realized I was serious.

i call shenanigans

#86: I see your point, I have seen the effects of both but [emphasize] I don't believe that you can compare the too, but that is just me.
#88: did you not read the full thing? I also said, she could have thought her daughter was JOKING.

smoking is VERY comparable to bulimia/anorexia, in the fact that it's VERY hard to stop. even when you do stop, the effects linger for a very, very long time. you never look at food the same way after an eating disorder.

you don't have to be superrr skinny to be bulimic, do you? :O

Tell her to try her own advice, the sluggish cow.

#94, yeah most bulimics are actually at a normal weight, or even overweight. the problem with being bulimic, other than the obvious damage to your health, is that you absorb most of the energy/nutrients from your food before you throw it up, making the whole process futile and simply, not worth it.

#88: "if she was being a bitch, then she wouldnt smile & pat her on the head. its made up."

what?? that makes no sense. You can be a bitch and smile at the same time.

oh my god...maybe she thought you were kidding? i dunno, i hope your mom would never seriously say anything like that.

My mother pulled the same thing... and she's a psych nurse. Good luck.

#99 I'm so sorry... your mom needs to go back to nursing school!

OP, as an RN I can tell you that your mom is TRAGICALLY misinformed.

As a human being I can tell you that your mom is cruel and hateful.

All signs point to IGNORE HER and don't own her dysfunction!

Good for you for reaching out to get help! Keep trying, but with people other than your mother.

FAKE

#67, I don't care what bulimics and anorexics feel like. I don't care about their condition and I don't feel sorry for them.

And yeah, you're right, the food that these people barf up wouldn't have magically appeared to a bunch of starving Ethiopians. But that doesn't really matter. These people are wasting food in a world where other people die because there is no food. If you don't think that's fucked up, something is wrong with you.

So, all you bulimics and anorexics out there, just realize that there are people in the Third World, and even in parts of the west, who would straight up kill for the food you waste. And realize that every time you regurgitate your dinner into a toilet, there's some more blood on your hands. Indirectly, perhaps, but that doesn't negate the fucked up reality of it all.

And what is with this site moderating every comment that doesn't pamper the OP? Sometimes, the OP sucks and they need to know. It's this pampering attitude that has made the West so damn soft and pathetic in the first place.

whattt?! weird!!!

nice mom...

wow, your mom's a bitch
i suggest to get medical help
and good luck!

#102: You know I'm tired of you thinking you are better than everyone else, I don't see you doing anything to help 3rd world countries. NO, you are on a site arguing with people and being a bitch about anorexics/bulemics. My ENTIRE school did more than you could in a year. We raised money, donated food and we slept at the school to raise awarness for hunger. NOW WHAT?

I'm sorry to hear that.
Get a new mom and get help.
There are plenty of us that do care, so don't lose hope. :)

well said #31

THAT SUCKS! :(

but i dont think bulimia is a concious decision. i havent had it, but a really good friend has, and she told me that the first time she made herself throw up, she didnt even know what she was doing, she just...did it, and it felt right. i know that's odd, but that's what she said, and she wouldn't lie about it. i guess it's possible she had something different from bulimia, but that's what she told me she had.
she didnt tell her parents, and she was able to stop it herself. but recently it's come back. dont wait to get help. tell someone who will listen and be there for you.

#13 FTW!

#107, I love how you use logic.

Officerpat spends a few minutes a day arguing with people on a website, so he must not give to charity or do any sort of philanthropic work, and is likely a terrible, terrible person.

You're brilliant. What kind of school is this? An elementary school? Only a fucking toddler could be as pitifully stupid as you.

And your last part, where you essentially brag about what a great guy you are and what a great school you attend, is bullshit. I don't brag about my charitable exploits because that's not the point. I don't give to charity so I can thump my chest about it later. So shut the fuck up.

Now I see. #107 is a 14 year old girl. That explains everything.

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I wonder if #102 knows what anorexia is.

Since he's throwing them all in the 'food waster' lot, I'd have to lean towards 'no'

i call bs. thats too mean to be real

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#102, you're a fucking idiot. it's really hard to imagine that someone could think that, let alone say it. it's a fucking disease, not a decision to waste food. and why the fuck do you think she/he? told her/his? mom?! because she wants to stop it, asshole! if you're going to insult people, then at least get your facts right, as it is you're just an immature, ignorant, arrogant bastard.

And so the fuck what if I'm a fourteen year old girl. And no Im in HIGH SCHOOL. And I do things on a daily basis too, and soon my mother will be going to Africa with food and clothes, and talk about HIV/AIDS. And you are probably grown, arguing with a teen. Now go do your "charity work" that you do so much, though you have a nice amount of time to be on this site ARGUING WITH A TEEN.

#120, about getting your facts rights,
it's not a fucking disease, it's a disorder.
hahahhahahha, you're trying to argue a point, while you don't know even the BASIC SHIT about this.

Time to make this all about her lousy cooking!

sorry, i phrased it wrong. the point is, it's not a concious decision.
if somebody who has had it would like to tell me that it is, then go ahead. otherwise, you should be able to get my point, even if it is phrased poorly.

I understand your point, lemonsqueeze, but i disagree with you.
no one forces them put two fingers down their throat, it's their own decision.
they think they are fat? they don't like their body? Go out and exercise until the point where you are satisfied with your body, nothing is stopping them from doing that.

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thank you # 126!!!

i said before (#111) that i have a friend who's had it. i'm basing what im saying off of what she's told me.

yeah, and i'm basing it on pure logic.

#125: That is how it starts, with exercising and eating right untill it isn't right and throwing up, untill you cannot eat. It's called Body Dismorphic Disorder look it up, no matter what they do they will always think that they look horrible and are fat. And no it is not like low self esteem, its a hell of a lot worse.

sounds like lemonsqueeze got manipulated by their friend

i know. but some things arent logical, so that doesnt always work.

i'm becoming a big fan of ohhhhshizzz. :P
and i wasnt manipulated by her. that implies she wanted something. she didnt, she just wanted to tell someone.
even if that wasnt the word you meant, she wouldnt lie. she might have something different from bulimia, but she wouldnt lie without having a reason. i'm pretty sure she wouldnt lie to me even if she did have a reason. not after telling me something as big as this.

#130. Yeah, i've read about the Body Dismorphic Disorder, and it's still your own fault that if you're not satisfied with your body you puke your guts out, instead of exercising. There is no reasoning behind that mindset, except for the fact that yeah, it's a whole lot easier eat whatever shit you want and then puke it out, than have a healthy diet and a good amount of exercise.

#107 - Could you point out to me where 102 says that they are better than everyone else? Or the indication that they do not do anything to help third world countries? It seems to me you are the one indicating that you are better than anyone.

i wanna say that this story is BS. I cant believe any mother in her right mind would ever say something like that to her child.

first of all, it's not easier. eating disorders arent easy.
and again, you cant figure everything out with logic. the world doesnt work like that. sorry to disappoint.

"she didnt even know what she was doing, she just...did it, and it felt right. "
felt right?! really? since when does your body feels right when you do something unnatural, like puke up your food? it's all just excuses.

first of all i like this iryna person, finally someone with common sense, and second lemonsqueeze maybe she wanted you to feel bad for her, would you feel bad if it was her choice? no and she knows it so she told you it wasn't her choice. Boo Yah, Game Over, I Win

i dont think this is something you can understand unless you've had it. and since you havent (this is an assumption, correct me if i'm wrong) you shouldnt judge.

139, you dont know her. you can say you win, you can even believe you win, but you dont know her.

Lemonsqueeze, because of people like you who advocate that the "disorder" is not controllable consciously, girls become bulimics, since they are convinced by so many people that it is an "uncontrollable" thing. Congrats on encouraging bulimia, mad props!

Im becoming a bigger fan of lemonsqueeze.

This is my final thought because Im tired of talking on here, if you haven't had an eating disorder you can't cast out judgement. Because you don't know. but I do have a question iryna, what would you do if your kid had an eating disorder. Just tell them to suck it up and eat right? probably so. and this is how serial killers are born.

Aww something like that happened to me, only I was developing Anorexia.
Please try and tell someone else about this so you can get help.

#143 hahhaha
you're so immature, i'm not even going to have a conversation with you. linking "eating disorders" and serial killers? haha, yeah, you definitely do not have ANY common sense WHATSOEVER.

Oh and #135: you just stfu why must you jump into arguments? why do you even want to do you have a life. I don't think Im better than anyone actually so get over YOURself and stop jumping in when not wanted nor needed.

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it is controllable. you can stop it. it just isnt necessarilly conscious, until you try to stop it.

Im sorry #102 but you make me sick
Would you tell a cancer patient undergoing chemo that the food he/she was unable to keep down would have been valued in a Third World Country?
It's a disease, not a choice

and the link is between bad parenting and serial killers.

try not being so fat next time

see, i made a post earlier about this. the general population is grossly misinformed about eating disorders. THEY'RE MENTAL DISORDERS. And do you want to know HOW many people get them? Through depression, abuse, neglect, etc. Many rape victims are bulimic. Many abuse victims are bulimic. So, those who say anorexics/bulimics know what they're doing and have blood on their hands, think about that.

LEMONSQUEEZE
how does that even make sense?
not necessarily conscious? if it is unconscious than she does not have control over it, so you want to tell me that she is not controlling her fingers when she thrusts them down her throat?
yeah, okay, that a whole lot of bull.

#148, once again, you are completely wrong. I even made a post about this. Please do more research before you say stuff like that.

because, as 152 said, thanks by the way :P, it's a mental disorder.
does this make sense to anyone who is arguing on my side? if it doesnt, then please tell me.

149 you idiot, that's different, cancer patients can't keep their food down because there body won't let them, they aren't shoving their finger down their throat, two separate uncomparable things

Bad parenting is letting your child become bulimic in the first place. To me it was explained, what repercussions it's going to have on my body if i was ever stupid enough to do it. NOONE, noone in my family, in my extended huge family ever had any disorder. Because if i think i gained some weight, i'm going to lay off on the candy and go run a mile.

No, you are an idiot, someone who claims to have an eatin disorder such as bulemia physically cannot remain fat after years and still think they have it. # 154, you are also the kind of jackass who probably also thinks ADD and ADHD are real diseases.

your mom's a moron

154, completely ignore that then. words are not coming out right, today...
that's not quite what i meant, but those were the only words i could think of to say it.

#157, please. Don't say that. My parents love me more than anything in the world. They would give their lives for me. Yet, I'm bulimic. I'm anorexic. I'm also on an anti-depressant. Is that their fault? You tell me.

exactly iryna these people are just being lazy and taking the easy way out and then people feel bad for them so more and more people keep doing it because it is acceptable now

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#158, I see you still haven't done your research, because if you still think what you said is true, then you have NO idea what you're talking about.

Bipolar chipmunk is fucking dumb, the reason these diseases all came about is because a bunch of drugged up teens in the 80s thought they were too fat. Just like add and adhd came about because parents began having kids in their 50s when they just coulnt keep up with them, and decided they needed an excuse.

#161.
I'm sorry, is anyone forcing you to put those fingers down your throat?
are you self conscious about your body?
why don't you do something healthy about it, like pretty much the rest of the population, WHO IS STOPPING YOU?!?!

#162.
I hate how acceptable it is now. In Ukraine, where i was born and lived for most of my life there was no such thing as anorexia or bulimia, because no one was looking for an easy way out, everyone knew that if you put a shit load of calories in your bodies, well you have to get them out by BURNING them and USING them up, not to puking back out again.

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#34 - a phobia of throwing up wouldn't stop you. I battled a lot of eating disorders growing up and just because I hated to throw up didn't mean I hated my body less. At the time i'd rather purge myself of unwanted calories and fat vs avoiding a few minutes of throwing up

And to whoever said you still make a conscious effort not to eat. That's also not true. You lose your appetite through your phobia of weight gain. At one point you don't even realize you aren't eating because it just become a part of life. You may realize you're not hungry but the don't always click. There would be times where I'd go x amount of time without eating and only realize it days later. It was kind of like, what are you talking about, I ate.... uhmmm.... oh. And then you're too scared TO eat because you know as soon as you do the weight jumps back on, and you involve yourself in something else and before you know it, x amount of more time has gone down.

Its not always conscious. A lot of times is SUBconscious

man, some of you people make me sick. really, just listen to yourselves.

No, you just research wrong because you're the kind of moron who is easily swayed by stats. The fact that these diseases are growing and rampant is true, but you haven't looked into why.

ADD and ADHD
don't even start me on those.
If you're hyper you have a problem? really? ha. that's funny.
yeah, i can't concentrate on my studies sometimes either. Not a reason to pop pills and feel sorry for yourself. US pharmaceutical companies are living on people like that. Funny how ignorant some are.

And you actually become more afraid of someone hearing you because you're ashamed of what you're doing. AND after so long OF binging and purging, eventually your body just.. does it. You literally feel sick until you throw up and by then its not, im avoiding eating, its, im doing what i need to do to physically feel less sick

theMurph, I AM bulimic. I know more about this than you will EVER know. you're truly disgusting me right now. one day, you'll look back at this and realize just how wrong you really were.

#168.
EXACTLY, you were scared to eat because weight jumps on?!
oh my god, i wonder what can you do about that.
hmmmm, here's an idea- GYM!

MonkeySpeaks
of course after throwing up 1000x amount of times your body develops reflexes and it can't keep food in your stomach, that's why these bulimia patients in the late stages are taken to hospitals and fed food through tubes.
You brought your own body to this state. You are to blame that you feel sick when you eat.

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#174, the reason I became bulimic was because I had a terrible self image of myself. i was extremely depressed. i was being made fun of. you are absolutely right when you say i could have lost the weight naturally, but did i do that? no, and I regret that with every inch of my body, but i can't change that now. it's become a mental illness, and it's incredibly hard to cure myself. you people have no idea, no FREAKING CLUE what it's like. i'm not asking for sympathy; i just want people to understand this illness, and to realize by shunning those who have it, they're only making the situation worse.

When I told my mother I was anorexic she told me I didn't look skinny enough.

I'm sorry she said that. Talk to someone else, someone who listens.

As far as the conscious versus unconscious goes, no it's not something like Bipolar that happens outside your control but an eating disorder isn't in your control either. While you're in it, it feels like you're in control. You feel good because you feel like you're choosing not to eat and that makes you strong, or makes you feel better about yourself (however, it's really only a fleeting satisfaction that is based on the whim of a scale), but if it was just a choice then recovery would be easy. By the time you realize where you're going and want out, you realize that you can't just stop.

thank you, silla.

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Omg that is fucked up. I am so sorry your mother thought you were joking and said you should try anorexia! I'm sure you look fine, so don't worry. But keep fighting the sickness! I'll keep you in my prayers. I hope you are able to get help real soon :) Good luck!!

#174.Exactly, it was your own choice.
It wasn't a virus, wasn't an infection that you had no control over. you made your own choice. And all your choices have consequences.
What is there to understand? that a bunch of girls that have terrible self images make terrible decisions? Yeah, i know that already. I bet it is hard to come back from it, but you know if you become addicted to heroin, it's hard to "cure" yourself from the addiction too. Doesn't justify anything at all.

say what you want i don't have one ounce of sympathy, can't when it's a CHOICE

either thats really really fucked up and talk to someone, it isnt that much of a disease like 181 says, but I think she was just joking cuz she thought u were joking i mean she like patted your head?

#21, #152 i agree.
#147, you're being an ignorant asshole. being bulimic sometimes can make you gain weight or stay at a normal weight.
and for those of you saying this is fake, there are ignorant people in the real world, like on this site, that don't understand mental illnesses, hence the huge stigma with mental illness. you can't snap out of it and they can't control it, they need legit help. get over yourselves. plus, if you say you can't believe any mother could be that cold hearted, look at all the children who are abused and neglected.
and hun, i'm really sorry. try talking to your mom again and tell her you're serious. anyone who said YDI is a bitch.
stay strong & don't stop seeking help until you find someone that will listen.

I am going to answer every dumbass who says "you didnt have it you wouldnt know". Sophomore year in hgih school, i lost an extraordinary amount of weight fast. Roughly 45 pounds in about 3. I ate an egg white, a granola bar, and a sandwich as my daily intake. I didnt it because i felt too fat, and also because of wrestling i needed to get to 189 lbs. I felt fine afterwards and did not fall into any babyish disorder. Explain that one.

theMurph, i appreciate the common sense (:

theMurph, that is so ignorant, so heartless, i don't even know what to say. it's not a "disease". it's a mental illness. why can't you understand that? why do you hate people like me? am i proud of myself? NO. do i enjoy what i do? NO. i'll bet you anything in the world that not a single sufferer of an eating disorder wants to keep up their terrible habit. but no, they can't stop, because it's an illness of the mind. you eventually lose nearly all of your rational thought when you are in the grips of an eating disorder. furthermore, do you really think i want to diverge attention away from cancer and aids? do you think im that heartless? that selfish? if you do, then i pity you. i truly pity you.

3 weeks*

#186
I wouldn't be talking about ignorance in your age when you don't even know about the world around you, but that's not even the topic, so it doesn't matter.
sweetheart, you don't acquire mental illness by choice, just a tiny little note for your future education (:

at least you admitted it and are asking for help

go get help!

yeah murph, i lost 60 pounds over a summer, and to everyone heres how i did it, i ate right and exercised daily. hmm hard to comprehend, must of been my mental illness, o wait it was my choice

Oh stop, I don't hate you, i dont know you. But i dislike the fact that you are trying to build up something that is not nearly as big a deal as people are making it out to be. Do some people have these disorders? Yes, true i concede that. But 95% DONT. and its their own fault

oh, i guess you just proved me wrong, didn't you, murph? oh man, how stupid am i?

finally you admit you're wrong chipmunk

#189 if you got yourself in this mess, well get yourself out of it.
and don't fucking complain how hard it is to get out, because you did this to yourself, no one else. So why do you expect me (or anyone with my opinion) to be on your side? Why should I feel sorry/tolerant/understanding towards anyone who fucks up their own life on purpose?
Every choice has its price. Well, you're paying yours.

Over the summer, I don't think I was anorexic, but I was consciously trying to eat as few calories as possible. My mom came and talked to me about it, but when I got back to school, people were talking to me behind my back about my weight. Sorry, this doesn't have to do with this FML :P

look, im not trying to say we need an eating disorder awareness week or anything like that. im just saying that people are very misinformed when it comes to eating disorders, and those who are in the grips of them feel so ashamed because they KNOW people won't accept them and comfort them, that many never admit to what they're doing. they're slowly killing themselves, and they won't admit it because they know they'll be looked down upon when they come out.

#198, there's nothing wrong with that.
I try not to eat extra calories either (for example save my chocolate lovings for special occasions, like birthdays)
and if people didn't bullshit about their "diseases" no one would talk behind your back about you losing weight as a problem, they would congratulate you on your self control and determination (:

why should we accept you, i don't see that rule anywhere

Over the summer, I'm not sure if i was anorexic, but i was consciously trying to eat as few calories as possible. My mom came to talk about how I could gain some weight, but when I got back to school, people were talking about me behind my back about my weight. Sorry this doesn't have to do with your FML, but remember, you will always be able to find help somewhere.

oh yeah, i fucked my life up on purpose. i wanted to subtract 30 years from my life. i wanted to permanently scar my heart. all of this while i hadn't even reached high school yet. yeah, i know how easy it is to cure myself of the illness, but nope, i enjoy the attention too much. i just LOVE starving myself. i love that acidy feeling in my throat. mmmm good. yup, i love fucking myself over.

#199.
Please, i'm begging you please, explain to me why I shouldn't look down upon a person who's destroying their own body by their own choice? Why should i accept a person who is hurting themselves knowingly? Why should I encourage self pity from intentional self inflecting hurt?

exactly 204, do you feel pity for those people who smoke? nope chances are you are like what an idiot they are killing themselves. basically i see it the same way with these so called diseases

#193
Yes, people can do it by choice. It was your choice. With eating disorders, it's different. it's an illness. two totally different things. and i'm guessing you were overweight and were losing weight to accommodate your health.

#203.
It all goes to the beginning, when you had a choice, and you chose the unhealthy way out.
I bet it sucks to be unhealthy now, no doubt, but hey, you got yourself there, no one forced you to.

Eat, fucking christ, eat some soft food like pudding and get your stomach abck in shape. dumbdumbdumbdumbdumb

a lot of annorexics/bullimics do work out like crazy like run in sweatshirts so they sweat more and shit like that. they dont eat right before so then they pass out. its dangerous

and all those who judge these people, im sure your one of those people who tell those who have depression to "snap out of it" like they have a choice

yes, i do feel pity for those who smoke, because i KNOW they want to quit, but can't. i don't think they're idiots. i know how they feel, how desperate their situation is, and how hard it is to stop what they're doing.

to number 204, why would you look down on someone who only wants to get better? do you think we do these things for attention? would you not want to help someone like me, who is slowly killing themselves, someone who knows it, but can't stop?

One word: bitch.

#209
depression is different, it is based on the hormonal disfunctions and imbalances.
Wanna tell me what chemical imbalance bulimics have?
oh wait, that's right, THERE ISNT ANY!

#191
What are you talking about? I know it's not by choice, that's precisely what I was saying, I was defending her.

irnya, come on, do i really have to say this again? have you just been skipping over all of the meaningful information in my comments? it's a MENTAL ILLNESS. MENTAL ILLNESS MENTAL ILLNESS MENTAL ILLNESS MENTAL ILLNESS MENTAL ILLNESS MENTAL ILLNESS MENTAL ILLNESS MENTAL ILLNESS MENTAL ILLNESS MENTAL ILLNESS MENTAL ILLNESS MENTAL ILLNESS MENTAL ILLNESS MENTAL ILLNESS MENTAL ILLNESS MENTAL ILLNESS MENTAL ILLNESS MENTAL ILLNESS MENTAL ILLNESS MENTAL ILLNESS MENTAL ILLNESS.

#210.
I think you do these things out of convenience, and yes, stupidity. I don't know so much of attention, that may be in some cases. If you wanted to get better, you would stop puking, because you KNOW it's unhealthy for you.
I can't help you, sorry. I wish I could, but it's impossible. You got yourself into this, you get yourself out of this, i don't know what you were thing when you chose to hurt yourself. You KNEW how it is going to end. You can't stop even though you're killing yourself? Really? that bullshit, you have such a thing call instinct, that tells you to do anything possible to survive.

Sorry that is so sad when u tell someone and they dont care o well tell yer dad

Look, Ohshizz, I don't care how old you are. I see your age as a reason for your flaming idiocy, but if you're gonna post on here with the rest of the adults, you're going to get the same sort of response they all get. You're welcome to keep posting, but don't you dare use your age as a cop-out for stupid shit you say.

And LemonSqueeze, anorexia is NOT a disease. It is a disorder. A mental disorder. And frankly, I believe the people with this disorder, and also people with bulimia, are mentally weak people driven by an insecure need to achieve a false standard of beauty. Don't come on here and tell me to research my shit when you can't even get your own facts straight.

Lastly, macsnackwrap, my grandmother died of cancer several years ago. I was with her in her final hours and it was one of the worst and most tragic things I've ever witnessed. That disease is in NO way comparable to eating disorders. I can't believe you would even make that analogy. I'm seriously at a loss for words.

iryna, i was 13 when i started. i was very emotionally unstable, and not thinking clearly. please, i want you to understand that I can't just stop. It's simply not. that. easy. i wish, oh God how i wish it were, but it becomes a part of your mindset, like something you HAVE to do. it's really like smoking. that's the best comparison. please, i just want you to understand this!

Guys, before you comment on these things you need to know the facts. Just like any other disease or disorder, bulimia, anorexia, PICA, Binge Eating, Orthorexia and many other forms of eating disorders are not a conscious decision. No one wakes up one day and decides.. "hey, I want to become bulimic!", or "maybe today is a good day to become anorexic".
People in this world are SO judgemental of others, that they can't take a step back and look at the whole situation. No one person is like anyone else. So..
1) How can you say her mom didn't actually do that?
Many parents in this world are verbally and physically abusive. I can stand up for this one first hand.
2) Congratulations to everyone who doesn't have an eating disorder.
But.. that doesn't make you better than anyone else. Just because certain things are one way in one country, and one way in another doesn't mean that you have the right to judge them or make rude remarks.
3) You need to try and understand the view point of someone who has a disorder. It's not BABYISH, or for the weak minded, its a fucking DISORDER people. It's not something that one can control. If we could.. we would. Who honestly wants their life to be consumed by an eating disorder. It doesn't give anyone dignity or happiness..
So for all you people judging those who are suffering.. maybe you need to take a step back and learn about the disease. I have talked to many many medical experts on this topic. Everyone of them has agreed with me that unless you have suffered an eating disorder, you will never fully understand the impact that it has, or how truly difficult it is.

#218.
Yes, i understand it is hard as hell to get yourself out of that hole. I said that before. But you know, i'm sure it's a whole LOT easier than getting rid yourself of some strong addiction, like Heroin for example. And there are stories of people who became clean. So if you want to tell me, that it is impossible for you to stop it because you HAVE to do it, well all I have to say is that's a lie and that you're just a weak little girl who doesn't have the self motivation to get yourself out of this situation.

iryna and unfun: it is NOT a choice. It is a mental disorder. Both of you are so disgustingly uneducated it makes me nauseous. Anorexia and bulimia are not something you can choose to have, and once you have them, you cannot choose for them to go away. You think people with anorexia LIKE it? You think they WANT that for themselves? No. "Why should we accept you I don't see that rule anywhere." That is possibly the stupidest thing I have ever read. Wake up, get out of your self-created cocoon of delusion and intolerance, and accept that there are people in this world that are different than you. *Gasp* How shocking! People that are different than you! Imagine that. Who would have guessed it, huh? Accept it. People with anorexia are not doing it for the attention. It is not a choice, it is not a lifestyle, it is a disease. It is a disease as serious and devastating and any other, and should be taken just as seriously.

@ the OP: That is unbelievably, mind-numbingly fucked up. I'm so sorry.

how do you it's easier? because i don't think it you would be able to determine that.

one more thing, i'm not a girl. that's another very common misconception about eating disorders.

#220
Answer me one question
WHO MADE THEM HURT THEMSELVES? Did someone put fingers in their throat to puke?
Please do not comment on anything else, just answer these two questions

Eitak or bipolarchipmunk, how did you become a bulimic/anorexic/whatever? How did it start? When? Why did you do it?

That's why I have the views that I do. I get the impression that people with these disorders are driven by some absurd sense of beauty driven by pop culture, and those insecure and pathetic needs make it impossible for me to feel pity.

I dated an ex-anorexic once. In fact, she was the only girl I've ever loved. And she told me herself that the above reason was her reason as well. And as far as I'm concerned, in a world with AIDS, cancer, malaria and other truly awful ailments, a mental disorder where teenage girls in the world's richest countries try to look like their favorite singers is a damn laughingstock.

#220 well said.
#222, it's completely different. it's a FUCKING. MENTAL. ILLNESS. its a disorder & its not something she can control.

#223.
You don't choose to have a mental disorder. Are you dumb?
You are contradicting itself, it is not a disease, it is a disorder. God, learn some basic shit before you try to tell others that they don't know anything.

This is a definition of disease:
a disordered or incorrectly functioning organ, part, structure, or system of the body resulting from the effect of genetic or developmental errors, infection, poisons, nutritional deficiency or imbalance, toxicity, or unfavorable environmental factors; illness; sickness; ailment.

Different? I don't have anything against different. I celebrate differences. But i am not going to feel pity for those who hurt themselves.

#227.
I don't know if you all are deaf or you just can't read
YOU CAN NOT CHOOSE TO ACQUIRE A MENTAL DISORDER!!!!!
READ PLEASE!

Sorry your mother is such an insensitive bitch. Your brave for admitting you have a problem, go talk to someone who will help you to get better. stay strong.

Your mom sucks. Adopt a new one.

iryana, i don't know what you're talking about. that's what i'm saying.
i said she can't control it.
aka you can't choose to acquire a mental disorder.
I NEVER SAID YOU CHOOSE TO ACQUIRE A MENTAL DISORDER. I'VE BEEN SAYING EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE.

iryna, stop, please. just admit that you are wrong? or maybe you've woven yourself so deeply into your intolerant, self protective, judgemental coccoon that it's impossible for you to do that?

FAAAAAKE! Either that, or your mother had to have been joking. Either way, no FML for you.

217, we already went over the disease/disorder thing. i admited that i mispoke. i'm sorry.
and you cant believe people would say that about cancer, but if she smoked, then that was her choice, right? if you're going to say that bulimia is a choice, then smoking is a choice as well.
and you're all disgusting. it's not even your ignorance, it's the fact that you will go on here, and insult someone who only wants to help themself. it's not nearly as easy as you all seem to think it is, and unless you have one, there is no way you are going to understand. i'm not saying you have to agree, but if you dont understand, then why the fuck are you insulting them?!

#233.
Why don't you admit you're wrong?
oh wait, that's right, you were the one that said puking your guts out clouded your judgement, and that you can't think rationally.
i regret wasting all my time trying to have a logical conversation with a person who can't quite, um, how do i put this, THINK.
Have a fun time puking your food out until your organs fail (:

Wow what a bitch. I hope you find help soon

what a bitchh

"Have a fun time puking your food out until your organs fail (:" iryna, how can you even think that, let alone say it?! that's just unhuman. you're such a bitch.

dont take the easy way out. i mean, its easy to stop eating and throwing up to get skinny. dont be such a lazy bum! eat healthy and work out, geez!

unless she clearly thought you were joking, your mom should die in a fire.

#240.
Don't even try. I did and waisted my time
It's pointless (:

i'm not anorexic or bulimic. i'm not playing the victim. i'm disgusted by the fact that you all will insult others, not me.
and yes, you can stop, but it's hard. just like i'm sure it was hard for your dad.
congratulations, by the way, that's great. i have a friend who's dad just quit smoking and drinking. it's tough.

I hope your mom just extremely clueless and not that big of a bitch. Good luck getting help.

wow, i'm so sorry. i feel terrible for those who suffer from that disease. everyone is beautiful, and you don't have to worry if you don't have a perfect figure. you're beautiful the way you are. you can contact me if you would like someone to talk to. much love

Iryna: Personally, I find you incredibly rude and disrespectful with the way you go about "trying to have a logical conversation". In regards to your .. question. No one forces anyone to do anything- have you ever heard of a mental disorder called schizophrenia? If not it might be a good idea to look that one up. SOMEWHAT like schizophrenia (I am not saying these diseases are the same), there is a voice telling someone to do something. No one forces them to do it, yes you are correct in that manner alone, however it is extremely persuasive and misleading. You could try imagining someone telling you consistently that you are not beautiful, in fact you look disgusting and you are not worth the time of day. Eating disorders are a method of false control. Even though we know this, it doesn't mean that we can overcome it.
And how pleasant of you to wish something like that upon someone. That alone proves how insensitive you are.
p.s.? I'll write however much I want.

To officerpat & tiltwrestler
I respect your view a lot more knowing that you have personally dealt with someone who has suffered from an eating disorder.
However not all E.D.'s revolve around the media. Many people in the media themselves suffer from eating disorders. After being in treatment for bulimia, I met 40 other girls who have gone through the same or similar situations like me.
My personal E.D. began way back when I was only 12 years old. I had an abusive dad and a mom who didn't stick up for our family. Despite contacting Dyphis, I felt alone and became extremely depressed due to a drop in serotonin levels. Then came the Body Dismortification Disorder, where I saw myself as a person much bigger than I actually was. It wasn't a choice, when I looked in the mirror I literally saw someone else - not something I could help. Despite exercising (tiltwrestler)(I'm a year round varsity swimmer) and eating healthily the vision didn't go away and my anorexia and bulimia began.
Despite treatment it's something thats been lodged in my brain for years and is now a cycle that is extremely hard to break. Bulimia doesn't necessarily mean BINGE and PURGE. Many many sufferers eat regular meals and purge them.
I hope this clears something up for someone.

wow what a f***ing bitch your mom is....throw up all over her bed and say anorexia didnt work out too well and as they always say "old f***ing habits die hard"!!!!

Roughly the same thing happened to me when I was a teenager. Ask someone else for help. Maybe a guidance counselor or teacher, someone obligated to believe you. Don't give into the disease just because your mom doesn't know how to deal. Get help while you're still healthy enough to KNOW you need help.

ITT: people think it's cool to bash those with real disorders because they've met a few fakers.

I find most people who are depressed, anorexic or ADD to be just doing it for attention, but never in my mind have i doubted the truth that these problems exist, and those that suffer don't think it's zomg fun to get attention and help.

It reminds me of people who think being gay is a "choice". Who mentally and logically sits there and chooses to be harassed and yelled at by idiots like you?

@Tiltwrestler, of course people can get over it, but don't you think people should be supportive and help them instead of being like "well it's your own god damn fault you idiot"? Thats the worst kind of posting I see here. Then again, everyone likes to play internet tough guy because you can't get punched in the face over the internet for being a retard.

A bunch of people have mentioned this but I'm reiterating, easting disorders are a mental disease so yes you do "think" you have them because you don't want to fully admit that you have them. Hun I completely understand how you feel. I thought I was anorexic and I finally told my mother when I was took week to stay awake for 4 hours and had serious trouble getting out of bed. My mother's response - "we'll don't stop now you are doing so well." I decided to speak with a guidance councilor about my problem and he helped me get help. If you are in college or high school find a councilor through our school. It's very private and they are extremely helpful.

#44

You know nothing.
Anorexia and Bulimia are completley different.

Anorexia is when a person starves themself, fasts and skips meals and eats extremley low calorie meals in order to lose weight. THEY DO NOT PUKE.

Bulimics have a hard time restricting, so instead eat as much as they can/want and then puke it up.





Get help, hon.
You're mom is kind of a bitch.

#248
p.s. you can pollute this w/ your garbage talk 24/7.
couldn't care less (:

p.s. couldn't care less about your garbage (:

well you must not be bulimic if it's not working.

@254; seems like you care if you bothered to respond.

I also want to clarify one more thing. Many people on here believe that if you exercise more and eat healthy foods that your problems will be solved. Unfortunely this is not the situation at all.
Many individuals who suffer from eating disorders work out daily, and many times to an excessive and obsessive point. It's likely that most sufferers work out more than the average athlete.
I can say from experience that by simply eating healthily and getting a proper amount of exercise will not cure any eating disorder. The problem is stationed in one's brain, not in the amount of weight they lose or muscle they gain.

Maybe you don't look like a typical disordered eater. Maybe you don't have arms that are the same size on the top and bottom of your elbow, deep undereye circles, and hair loss/facial hair.

I am not trying to constrict your 1st amendment whatsoever.
You can write a whole book, and my life will be exactly the same as it was before.
thus i do not care for what you write, i am not interested in your opinion whatsoever.

fakest ever. no one would say that.

Thank you animejet. And iryna if you don't care then be my guest to no longer respond! Your comments aren't exactly appreciated, nor do they help anyones situation. My garbage talk? You mean a true life story? Mhmm. Makes a lot of sense. If you would like to have some input into this conversation, it would be a great idea if you could use some respect and maybe put a few facts out there to back up your position.

Lemonsqueeze, not everyone who smokes contracts cancer. And not all occurrences of cancer result from smoking. My grandma is one of the latter. Don't make assumptions.

And you're not to going to win with me by trying to put cancer on the same level with eating disorders. I'm pretty certain there is a way to convince me that eating disorders are in fact serious things, but putting them up there with the evils of cancer is NOT it. All that does is make those disorders seem more harmless and less problematic.

Try a different approach.

254, i can't believe you won't give this up....i guess there's no use in trying to convince you otherwise.

You just entered a conversation, I've been in it for hours.
I am not going to waste my time repeating everything I wrote.
True life story? Well i have a true life story too.
I thought i didn't look good. I went to the gym, stopped eating too much candy, and now i feel much better. What a miracle!
What are your facts?- your true life story? wow, that is such a credibility!
I'm not going to stop here because i don't want to discuss any topic with a self pitying closed minded person. Sowwwy.
Have a wonderful day!

@ officerpat:
i'm sorry, bad example. and i'm sorry about your grandmother. mine has cancer too. not sure what kind. not lung cancer, though.
i know i'm not convincing people. and i'm probably at least partially wrong. but there are people on here who have given evidence, and shared their actual stories. and if that cant convince you, then i dont think i can.
but that's okay. i'm not trying to convince you, i was at first, but i'm now just pissed off by how mean everybody's being to anybody who has an ED. i know a couple people with them. they're not funny. they're not intentional.

Hmm. I still don't think I look good. I'm a varsity swimmer who works out year round as well as going to the gym and working out at home? Your so called "logic" isn't correct in anyone elses mind aside from your own. Unlike you, my credibility comes from the fact that I know from 1) personal experience, 2) Discussions with medical proffessionals, and 3) pure research on the disorder.
If you retained any information.. I also am tired of repeating myself by stating that I eat regular meals just like you. I don't eat candy everyday like you're assuming (a sad uneducated assumption).
And its great that it's such an easy fix for you to join the gym! Unfortunately? For the large amount of people out there suffering from eating disorders, its not.
Please also explain how I'm self pitying.. or closed minded. Read my posts. I respect anyone with correct and valid information. You however, lack that.

LEMONSQUEEZE:
I am so happy that someone on here is sticking up for people who are suffering. You are absolutely right with your posts and are for the majority correct. Its mind numbing that some people can be so ignorant and self absorbed when they have no idea what is going on.
I really really appreciate your posts.

You should make healthy decisions, instead of throwing up the nutrients that your body needs and messing up your insides!

I am at a loss at how cruel some of you can be. I've been bulimic since I was a kid. I was raped when I was five and took out the shame and disgust I felt on my body. Bulimia does does make you lose weight. Most of the calories are absorbed immediately. This is sure as hell not an "easy" way out. It's a coping mechanism. It's not about cutting back cals and hitting the gym to fit into a dress. It's about having complete control of what goes in and what comes out. No I don't expect anyone to pity me or even to understand what me and other ED sufferers go to, but I think we deserve a tiny sliver of compassion.

okay. I think that this argument can be solved incredibly easily if someone just does a little research. If anyone cared enough (though it is highly doubtful that anyone does) I'm sure you could find countless sources that would prove what I have been trying to say all along: that anorexia and bulimia are not conscious choices whatsoever. Seriously, just Google "causes of eating disorders."

Also, I think it is incredibly disrespectful to mock or disregard some one's personal story. Calling some one's story "garbage" is so mean. What if I said that the story about that persons grandmother having cancer was "garbage"? (I'm not trying to compare the two - they are completely different. I'm just using it as an example).

That made me laugh pretty hard. Thanks.

your mom is a fucking bitch

Wth...people-on-this-site's parents really surprise me :P

I agree with #247. Come on guys this poor girl obviously already has self esteem issues and a bad mom. What do you think your critisicm and ridicule is doing to help the situation? Remember: If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all. :)

OP: I am so sorry, try to find some real help. I'm sure your mom cares but just does understand, Good luck! *hugs*

Aww. That sucks. Ask your school counselor or something for help (if you go to school o.o)
This is kind of random, but what does OP stand for? D:

#275
People were having a discussion, I do not understand what's wrong with that. yes, people have different ways of expressing themselves. Some may come off as rude to one person but totally normal to another, and if someone comes off as rude to you doesn't mean that whatever they said should be disregarded.

Ummm, #43, it's impossible to be less than 10% of normal weight. Your skeleton makes up more than 10% of your body weight, hello.

Don't let people's ignorance stop you, OP. Go to someone else, read up on nutrition, and I would suggest taking those kids' gummy multivitamins in the meantime if you can keep them down. That won't give you energy but it will help your body's metabolism stabilize a little bit so your hair and teeth and nails don't suffer as much. You can't live on vitamins obviously but they're better than nothing, and the gummies can be eaten on an empty stomach unlike the adult capsules.

Look up the Weston A. Price Foundation online. They have a lot of really good research about nutrition. Most of the widely accepted "low-fat, low calorie" stuff is nonsense. Healthy eating is about moderation and natural, nutritious whole foods, not calories and fat. I'm not a raw-foods enthusiast but there's a lot to be said for it. The closer your food is to nature, the better it is for you and the less you have to eat to get the same amount of nutrition. I am 5'5", have given birth twice, eat fats every day and drink LOTS of raw milk, and I weigh only 125 lbs.

Also, no matter what the doc tells you, the fact is that sugar has a far greater impact on your weight AND your health than natural fat. Sugar feeds bacteria which makes you get sick easier, and causes weight gain faster than anything else. Of course they make sugar-free stuff but that's all chemicals which is another issue. When you eat sweets, you get full quickly but it goes away fast, so you end up eating a LOT more quantity in order to satisfy your hunger.

A solution is probably more helpful, but obviously condolences are necessary too in this situation. The only thing that is not acceptable is when people are like "this is fake". "it's your fault your bulimic", and just things that are obviously gonna make the OP feel worse.

#277
I'm not saying there is anything wrong with them having a discussion I just clearly don't understand why it's necessary to bash the OP's self esteem? If it was me then I would definitely not appreciate all the rude comments. I of course understand that it is only the internet so people are going to say negative things, I'm simply sharing my opinion about it and asking people to have some sympathy.

well said, sarabox. very true.

Very well said and true sarabox.

i agree, sarabox. the OP actually had the courage to tell her mom, and she was strong enough to realize her problem. she can't help that she has the mind set to be skinny. many girls are like that. but everyone is perfect the way they are. they're unique. all you people who are saying "go eat a effing sandwich" need to realize that this is serious, and rude comments are unnecessary. imagine if it was your friend who needs help. would you help her? because by the looks of some of these comments, a number of you wouldn't feel any sympathy or try to help. real inhumane..

i suffered from anorexia/bulimia for four years.... its very sad you are experiencing these thoughts of needing to be stick-thin. it also is ridiculous that your supposed mother would say such a thing.

oh, and its not exactly a mental disorder. you know fully well the decisions you are making-at first. it then becomes fully a mind thing. your mind definitely can play mean and vivid tricks on you. but it also IS possible to control not only your thoughts and actions, but your mind as well.

stay strong! I know you can do it ! :]]]]

You got it right on the dot, bbygrl! With all the pressure from celebrities and just people in general how could people not have self esteem issues? Then accentuating them and telling them things like go eat a sandwich are definitely not going to help! If your motives are to discourage teenage girls with emotional problems then be my guest, but at least be aware of your choices and that you are possibly really hurting the person. Even though you don't know them and you are just saying something to them over the internet they are still a real person with feelings.

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I absolutely applaud you for knowing that you need help. I've struggled with eating disorders for a while now, and please, please GO GET HELP! You obviously are stronger and more intuitive than your mother, and you can do this without her if that be the case. So go, get yourself what you need and don't listen to what people who are trying to pull you down are saying. They aren't worth the time.
Good luck honey.

I don't have self esteem issues. Do I try to look good? Yes. But I do it in proactive ways, not destructive ones. Like going for a run as I am about to. And my desire to look good comes not due to pressure from celebrities or my peers, but from my sense of self-pride.

Are you guys gonna start snorting coke because celebrities do it? That'd be a shitty idea. Celebrities do a lot of dumb things that shouldn't be mimicked. And in line with my entire argument here, following someone else's lead because they're famous or what not is pretty weak-minded,

Be your own individual. There's no greater person you can be than yourself. If you're happy with your looks, then no one else matters.

i understand patttty poo
but she obviously has a different mind set on how she should look and she can't control her feelings. it's a mental disease.
god bless her.

I have a hard time believing this one is real, but if it is, that's seriously messed up.

#288
Maybe you should speak english?

Officerpat..... crack has nothing to do with it.... everyone knows celebrities are a common ideal for teenage girls, I'm not saying I am pressurized by them but a lot of people are. I don't think it's your place to judge anyways what's a 'shitty idea' and what isn't. What you say about being your own individual is completely true and I give you kudos for that, but many people aren't quite so lucky and do worry about what other people think about them which is normal.

wow what a way 2 push a girl over the edge... you might aswell be a eating disorder! with a family like that it's a wonder they even listened.....

hope it's okay now!

That reminds me when I told my dad I was depressed and he just told me I wasn't. :(

your MOTHER might need some SERIOUS help..
but i applaud your courage (: it must've taken a lot to talk to her.. keep fighting, stay strong !

You're probably bulimic because your mom is a huge bitch. As soon as you're able, RUN, don't walk away from her and into a therapist's office. With a mother like that, you're bound to need some untangling. Good luck, sweetie.

Thats horrible!
im so sad for you.
keep at it. you can fight it.
and knowing u need help is the first step.
awww :[
*hugses*

Did your hair fall out when she patted you?

#18, Yeah, it's wrong that you wanna call BS on this. Who are you to know what another person is capable of doing? I can tell you from very unfortunate personal experience that mothers can be and indeed ARE that evil and hateful to their own children. You people who make BS calls and mean, heartless comments are losing the real heart of this site. It's about out of the ordinary things that happen to people. Not about things you could see happening in your life. Just be grateful that your mom's not like this poster's. Don't make her feel worse by not believing her.

Oh my God, some people are ignorant and terrible.
A similar thing happened when I told my mom I was depressed. I wasn't looking for meds or anything; just someone to talk to. She told me back in Guyana no one was depressed, thus it did not exist, I did not have it, and I didn't need to waste her time talking.
Your mom probably thought you were joking. Sit her down and tell her you're serious.
To everyone discrediting what the OP is going through: eating disorders are mental disorders that stem from a need to control. It's not simply about wanting to get skinny and being lazy. The fact that the OP was going to her mother for help shows that she/he's trying not to be "lazy" about this at all. We should be encouraging them to seek help instead of ridiculing them, since they obviously want to change their ways.

If everyone who claimed they had an eating disorder actually had one, we could save a fortune on food production. Seriously though, the OP is probably the type of girl who has said a lot of bullshit to get attention and her mom can't take anything she says seriously anymore. Having eating disorders is "in" to some people, which really undermines the seriousness of actual cases. If she really is bulimic, then her mom's reaction can be attributed to the fact that every other 14 year old in this country wants an eating disorder and it's just not that big a deal anymore.

#197 You're one of the least empathetic people I've ever had the misfortune of interacting with.

OP: I'm sorry your mom reacted that way...I can definitely relate to what you went through, please try to get help from someone else who will be more understanding and supportive. It's important to seek help asap. And for those of you who don't understand eating disorders, please stop commenting. You're embarrassing yourselves.

At first I didn't believe this FML, but then I realized that this kind of thing is totally possible. I just wasn't aware that any mother in the world could say those words to their own daughter who is obviously reaching out to them. I'd also like to point out that bulimia is not only just throwing up your food, it could also be severely restricting your intake after a binge, excessive exercising or using diuretic or laxatives to get rid of calories.

To the OP:
I feel for you, I've struggled with bulimia for over a year now. Its not an easy battle to win, and I don't think anyone should be able to make comments about the disorder and how easy it is overcome it without having experienced it firsthand. Remember that you're beautiful no matter what. Go find help elsewhere, its the only way that you'll be able to make a full recovery. Tell another trusted adult that can get you real help. If you don't, it'll only get worse. If you need to someone to talk to, I'm here for you. (:

If you are serious your mother is a bitchy Bitch from the bottom pit of Hell i would never speak to her again she is a poor excuse for a mother ...

Oh my God.
I'm so sorry.
It was very brave of you to admit that to your mom. What a bitch she is... I'm sorry you have to live with someone so insensitive, and I hope you get the help you deserve.

290, while the sentiment is nice, it's clear you don't know about eating disorders. It's not about trying to be like a celebrity. It's a mental illness that completely takes hold of your brain for various reasons. It's sometimes about control, sometimes about wanting to disappear, sometimes because you hate yourself so much you don't think you deserve food... stuff like that. People don't develop eating disorders from wanting to look like a celebrity.

FYL and FYM.
Keep searching for other people to reach out to, and cut her out of your life as much as you can without losing your inheritance/college fund or ending up homeless.

and thats where you right hook the bitch LMFAO

there is so much ignorance here.
people have eating disorders for such a wide range of reasons. the OP doesn't state his/her individual reason...thus, i don't believe any responses should feasibly judge him or her. it's the mother, i think, that deserves the anger and disrespect, not the child asking for help.

also, just to alter perspective a bit...
people have stresses every day. some people smoke a cigarette. some drink alcohol. some run 10 miles. others read a book, do the dirty, shop compulsively, eat a steak, watch porn. and some of us resort to eating disorders. healthy? no. logical? absolutely not. controllable? of course, like tons of posters say, no one is "making us put our fingers down our throats."
but, ummm, yeah. is smoking healthy? is getting wasted logical? is shopping compulsively controllable?
everyone has their own method of coping. if yours is healthy, super for you. instead of being harsh, maybe you could be encouraging instead? help the poor kid find a better way to deal. not all of us are naturally inclined to do the healthy thing.

OP...good luck honey. If your mom can't help you, realize you are strong enough to help yourself. it took me 10 years, but I beat bulimia. you can do it.

Theres probably a good reason she told you that.

Anorexia nervosa and bulimia nervosa are two very complex disorders, and there are plenty of reasons why people develop (note: DEVELOP not CHOOSE TO HAVE) them. The primary cause is a psychological distortion of body image. This means that people who have the disorders view themselves differently than a normal person would. They often see themselves as so heinously overweight that they have to resort to binging/purging or starving themselves, even when it's not true. Another factor? Having a FEAR OF GAINING WEIGHT. Do you blame people for having a fear of spiders? How about a fear of heights? Or how about people who have such a fear of other people they can't leave the house? Are those the fault of the "fat west"? I agree that anorexia and bulimia nervosa have been over-sensationalized, but when someone legitimately needs help, who are you to judge them? They are complex psychological disorders, and more than six percent of people who are diagnosed with anorexia nervosa die because of their dysmorphic body image telling them to starve themselves. They are not "lazy". They are not "stupid". They are sick. Just because you are not does not give you the right to judge. Are you going to whine about how people who try to kill themselves are all "attention whores", too? As for those who can't believe that any parent would say something like that- my parents have said far worse. My father told me many times it was my fault my mother had a drug addiction. My mother once told me, when I told her I was suicidal and needed help, that she wished I would kill myself and then she wouldn't have to deal with me.

#102
well... you are a fuck head!! anorexia or bulimia is a desise just like alcohalism. We do not want to waste food for ethiopians, trust me. your lack of knowledge and compassion disgusts me. Most would get help but the feel ashamed or scared.
Can you imagine how hard it is to admit you have a severe problem, a weakness, that others (such as yourself) can use make you feel less that shit.
keep strong OP.
fuck you #102 pick up some medical jornals.

Your mum may die

what the FUCK.
that's messed up.
put clorox in her soup.

You ought to be thankful. Your failure to be successfully bulimic is preventing massive damage to your health.

Hey, Gryphon, why don't you go fall off a cliff?

You DO waste food, but it's supposed to make the rest of the world feel better because you don't WANT to do so? I'm pretty sure there's not a drunk driver on this planet who wants to run over a five year old girl. But they do it nonetheless. Should we just forgive them?

"Whoaaaaaa brah, it's kewl. you splattered her brain matter all over a five block radius, but ya didn't mean to, so I guess we'll let ya go. Don't do this again, ok, dude? Have a good one, brah. Lulz." (Note

try looking up a hotline in your local area for problems with eating disorders. it should be confidential and it will give you someone to talk to who really understands your situation and is there to help you.

eating disorders are 'real'. they are mental health problems, and people really need to be more educated on them, because there are so many people in the world, just like half the assholes on here, who have no idea, and make rude remarks.
thankyou #312.
along with that, its just like people dont believe in fears. i have floraphobia, and i sometimes am even physicall ill from just seeing flowers. its not a great experience when friend think its funny to throw flowers at you. but just like a fear, or anxiety, eating disorders are mental as well as physical.

and to all the people saying the 'bad parenting' remarks, (about how you'd be a bad parent if you let your child develop it in the first place) parents don't always know what their children are up to 24/7. someone who has bulimia, because they still are a normal weight for their body, may throw up when they are at school etc., and just not eat much at home. there are many different ways.

#319
That's hysterical! OH NOES THE BIG BAD FLOWER IS GOING TO GET ME! Your friends are right to throw them at you. One day you will be able to grow up and lead a normal life thanks to them.

My knowledge of eating disorders is limited to my few experiences with people who have had them and what I have read online.

However, I do not need any further education on the matter to note the irony that many people in the world's poorest countries starve to death every day while other people in the world's richest countries refuse to eat, and the food they refuse to eat would be so greatly coveted by anyone in the former group.

None of you can deny this fucked up irony.

I'm getting pretty sick of hearing about eating disorders and how they're "diseases". In my opinion, some good, old fashioned parenting is what people with eating disorders need. If I were refusing to eat, my parents would have just spanked me until I ate. What's wrong with that?

#322

Funny how you never see people in 3rd world countries with this 'disease' -- or depression, either.

#320, fuck off.
i bet you have a fear of something.
floraphobia is just like any other fear.
people have fears of such odd things. i know someone who has a fear of getting peanut butter stuck on the roof of their mouth.
so just fuck off, ok?
i do lead a normal life. im in year 12, have a part time job, and have a pretty decent social life. just because i have a fear of something doesnt mean i have a fucked up life.

Fake!

#324
You get physically ill from seeing *flowers*. That is *not* just like any other fear. Fear of axe murders, I can under stand. Fear of heights? Sure, you can get hurt if you fall. Fear of snakes? Sure, there are some venomous snakes... fear of flowers? No, that's different. Most fears are a result of fearing the danger an object represents.

You think you have a normal life, but will get physically ill attending Prom, (or any dance for that matter), weddings, funerals, good dates (bringing flowers), fancy restaurants, grocery stores, and out side.

I have no irrational fears or phobias -- that I know of. I might be afraid of meeting Jim Belushi in personl -- but never having met him in person, I am not aware of any potential fear.

Where do you live that people are such pansies that they are afraid of such mundane things? Know anyone afraid of milk? The color blue? Socks? Muppets? Perhaps you know someone that is afraid only of blue flowers, held by blue muppets, wearing socks, and drinking milk?

I so shouldn't say this because I know it's so wrong, but -- Your mom is awesome!! :-D I fell out of my chair I was laughing so hard!

**attempts to compose self**

So, on to the right stuff to say, it's a good thing that you told someone, but you can't depend on others to get you the help you need. If you know what you are and you want that help, go to the doctor or whatever yourself and get into the recovery programs. Good luck. :-)

#326, stop being such an asshole.
i only get physically ill from them at some points.

and my date for my year 10 formal bought me a corsage, and i actually wore it for a bit, which i was incredibly proud of. i just had to make sure that the actual petals weren't touching me.

i know that it is an odd fear, and i do not know how it originated. ive had it ever since i can remember.

Your mum needs a slap!

#328
Hey now, no name calling! Someone might be so afraid of being called a name they get physically ill!

Really? proud you wore a flower? Wow, you really have nothing better to be proud of in your life?

#330, geeze, exactly the sort of people i wish would drop off the planet.

fuck off. i was proud to wear it because im scared of them, and wearing it was a big step.
obviously i have other things in my life to be proud of aswell.

ozymandias, you cast shame upon your namesake. I'm sure he'd have you killed, were he real, because obviously you have nothing better to do in your life than be a dick on the internet. People have fears, rational or irrational. Again- they're not a conscious decision. Anyone with any intelligence should know that.

thanks #322 :)

I can't help but be very suspicious of this. is your mom really that much of a bitch that doesn't love you?

btw, i actually meant #332. lol.

*gets hit by car*

Ozymandias: "it's your fault for walking in the path of the car."

Sigh.

#331 -- Conversely I wish people that are so weak minded as to be afraid of silly things would grow up. EEEEK A BUTTERFLY!!!! I HAVE TO GO!!!

#332 -- It's pretty universally accepted that Ramses II existed. You are correct, though, he was something of a tyrant, so likely I would have been killed-- but due to not worshiping him as a god, not because I think flowers are a silly thing to be afraid of.

Unless you are mistaken and think my name derives from a recent pop-culture movie, or a slightly less recent sub-culture comic book. You have to dig into your history and classic English literature to find out details of my namesake.

#336 -- huh?

#327
WTF?!?! This girl's mother is awesome because she causes her daughter emotional pain, who is possibly the cause of her bulimia in the first place? You are a sick person. And how is it now normal for a teenage girl to go to her mother for help? Of course she should be able to depend on her... it is her mother.

#337. it doesn't mean you're weak minded if you have an irrational fear. you cannot help it.

Excuse me, officerpat.but bulimia and anorexia are metal issues, cause usually by deppression or bad self image.. caused by FUCKHEADS such as yourself making people feel bad for problems they are trying to fix. Waste food my ASS. do you have ANY idea how much food is wasted BEFORE it gets out of the factory, the shops not even near the houses of the consumer?!
And have you had anybody in your life who has gone to rehab for a drug addiction? obviously not because you have about as much commpassion as a turd.
I will not make excuses for someone who drinks and drives.. but someone who cannot eat without having a panic attack.. the are not putting you or a five year old child at risk.
And are you telling me you have never wasted anything.. cause I'll tell you. you do.. as do we all in the western world. fml is sopposed to be funny or shitty. give this poor girl, whose mother is the real waster ,some credit for trying to get help.

#337 -- um... yeah, you are week minded if you cannot control your fear of *FLOWERS*. Seriously -- in one sentence you make the claim it does not mean you are weak minded, and follow that up with proof that you are -- the fact that you cannot control your fears!

ozymandias, if you really have nothing better to do than abuse strangers on the internet, you need to get a life.
officerpat, there's a big difference between a drunk driver and someone with an eating disorder. after everything people have said, you really still cant see that? are you reading what they say at all?

and fueledbyamy, it isnt your fault, and you should be proud about wearing the flower. that's a big step. congratulations.

fueledbyamy, I know exactly how you feel! I have a fear of caucasian bald men. Whenever I see one I vomit everywhere, it's become quite a problem.

Please do not disrespect us because we have unusual phobias!

#344: Omfg, Rofl.
Office Prat: I never used my age as a cop out, I was just wondering, dick.


There is so much proof against every "theory" officeprat & iryna tried to pose it's hilarious.
And it never fails to amaze me how big of a bitch people on the Internet like to get but then in real life, they never have anything to say.
This is what I think: If you haven't had an eating disorder then you have no room to talk.
Being a "know it all" on the Internet just makes you a loser.
And if you guys are so worried about 3rd world countries like I said go aid them, bring them food. The food that is thrown up or not eaten wouldn't get there anyway so you can't bitch about it.

Why do you keep calling me Office Prat? Are you dyslexic, or just plain retarded? Or is this a fourteen year old's play on words? If it is, I don't get it. Stupid kids.

For all the proof you talk about, there is none of it. And what theories do I have? That people wasting food on the same planet where other people starve to death is fucking ironic? Yeah, I'll call that my "theory". Disprove it. Please, I dare you.

I also don't feel sorry for people with eating disorders. That can be another one of my "theories". Try to prove it wrong.

You're the real know-it-all here, and it's a little annoying. And yes, you did try to cop out with your age. If you come here and talk with adults, own up to it when you end up looking like a petulant child.

ohhhhshizzz, What is so funny?

#344 awesome!

#342, you call it abuse, I call it helping out a fellow human being with a problem. I guess I am just more considerate than you.

#345 -- you are ignoring the evidence that these 'diseases' don't really exist -- given the 0% rate of occurance in the 3rd world. The current movement among professionals is that this, along with a handful of other 'diseases' are a media driven affectation.

Gryphon, your argument is moronic. Complete logical fallacy.

You try to rub in my face that I shouldn't care about the food wasted by bulimics because even more food is wasted by factories. That's really how you just tried to ration the food-wasting concept off.

Do you get how this fails? Let me illustrate it for you.

Hitler killed six million Jews. Well, I'm gonna go kill three million. As long as I don't kill as many as Adolf did, I'll be fine and just point to his much worse action to draw attention away from my own atrocities.

Horrified yet? You should be. That's exactly what you just did. Just because factories waste food doesn't make it any more acceptable for bulimics to waste food, even if it is less. No one here was talking about industrial food waste, and hence all you did was attempt an irrelevant change of topic to lead the focus away from bulimics.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

officerpat, i think ohhhshizzz has stated her position clearly and made sense. and even if you dont agree with her, she has at least remained calm and mature. comparatively, at least.

Earlier in the thread, ohshizz bragged about her charitable contributions and tried to rub it in everyone's face, shouting the line, "NOW WHAT?". Go read that and see if you still believe what you just said.

And if you agree with her so much, disprove either of those two main points I brought up.

ohhhhshizzz:
YOU JUST SPOKE MY MIND. I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID.
Stop whining about 3rd world countries. Tell me what you've done for them instead of bitching to us about how we're wasting their food. To go along with Gryphon, I'm currently studying AP Environmental Science.
There is in fact an abundance of food in this world, enough to go around for everyone, the real problem is transportation. There is no simple or inexpensive way to deliver mass amounts of food to individual villages in developing countries. So the food that bulimics are "wasting", wouldn't have even had the chance to reach Africa.
One other point? Bulimic's don't necessarily waste food. The rest of the world who isn't suffering from an eating disorder has a normal cycle and bowel movement. What difference does it make if it comes out of your mouth or your ass? We both eat the same.
Another point?
I'm going to compare an Eating Disorder to Cancer. Don't freak the fuck out, I'm not saying they are the same thing. My grandma died from cancer, I know what I'm talking about. (p.s. I know theres differences.. I'm not an idiot)
JUST LIKE CANCER, having an eating disorder is not chosen, and it's not something someone wants.
They can both be fatal. In fact, one of the highest mortality rates is those who suffer from eating disorders. Hmm. Do you think we make a conscious effort to die?
I've tried to explain this before.. and I'm SICK AND TIRED of the people on here who honestly just don't know SHIT and are making judgements. If you don't know what you're talking about.. then don't judge because point blank you'll look like an idiot.
And to all of you guys with those weird phobia's, I'm so sorry that you have to suffer from that. No one has the right to judge you unless they know what you're going through :/. Ignore the morons on this website.

more considerate?! how the fuck is making fun of people with phobias helping them out with a problem?

officerpat, you just said that you're theories are that it's ironic, and that you dont feel sorry for them. those are both you're feelings/opinions. there is nothing to prove or disprove.
and i think bipolarchipmunk and eitak have disproved your actual position on eating disorders better than i could, and if you havent listened to them, then what's the point in me attempting?

Cancers come from bad luck, and sometimes dumb decisions like smoking factor in. Eating disorders come from physical insecurities, whether they be conscious or subconscious.

I can't stand insecurity. It's one of the stupidest traits I could ever find in someone. So when people contract eating disorders due to this, I see it as just desserts.

Natural selection in action, baby.

if that's natural selection, why arent kids starving in 3rd world countries also natural selection? by that logic, nobody should be given medicine, right? nobody should be given charity money to give them food when they're starving, because it's natural selection. if you're too dumb to get a job and feed yourself, you shouldnt survive, right?

Lemonsqueeze, that is EXACTLY my point.

Ohshizz said there's lots of proof against me and iryna's theories, and I in turn highlighted those "theories" (note my use of quotations in each instance) to show that it's impossible to have proof.

You might call me an asshole, but you can't stand here and tell me that I can be proven wrong. I can't. All I have done is state an opinion.

And technically, I could probably prove the first one by going to a dictionary, looking up irony, and matching it to this case. Since irony is essentially the logically expected, I'm going to chalk this one up for myself. It's not a scientific theory or anything, but I'm certainly not wrong.

Thank you LEMONSQUEEZE.
To Officerpat:
I would also like to point out from an earlier post that age does not matter. I know plenty of individuals in high school that are smarter than the average adult. In fact, (I am assuming that you are under fifty and have graduated within the last fifty years) the average G.P.A and overall intellegence level has far surpassed those of earlier generations. Aside from this years graduating class being the most competitive within the last 65 years, all sorts of curriculums and teaching have recently been modified to suit these kids who are becoming more and more smart at even younger ages. While I'm not saying that you are in anyway stupid, I am encouraging you to reconsider your view points of people at a younger age. Just because you are however old.. doesn't make your view point or opinion superior to anyone elses.

Thank you eltak! About time someone understands. Also to add, obviously anyone who hasn't personally had an eating disorder or known someone very close to them who has then they should not be talking about how it's their choice. Just like someone who doesn't have a phobia shouldn't criticize people about something they have absolutely no idea about.

Natural selection is survival of the fittest. Those with weak genetics and weak traits will not survive. And following with what I said, in that insecurity is a weak trait, eating disorders are simply nature's way of eliminating that trait.

Ahhhh...someone fails as a parent. What a bitch.

iryna has stated theories. that people with eating disorders choose to have it, etc. you have stated that you agree with those. or at the very least, heavily implied that. and that has been proven false. if you dont think it has, you havent been reading the posts well enough.
and it is ironic. that doesnt give you permision to insult everybody with one.
you dont have to feel sorry for them. but it's a mental disorder, so there's no reason why you shouldnt be. it isnt there fault. but that is how you feel, so yes, that you feel that way cannot be disproven.

Hmm officerpat:
You know how you used Hitler as an example up above? You're kind of starting to sound like him..
Weak traits.. should everyone have blond hair and blue eyes too? Maybe we should start wearing Nazi unifroms! :)! You want to throw everyone who has an eating disorder or any kind of disease into a gas chamber? Because any disease happens to be a "weak trait". That would include your grandma and mine who died of cancer wouldn't it.

that may be natures way, but i dont see how you can have human emotions, and not feel bad or want to give help.

#352 -- you seem to be ignoring the 'binge' portion of 'binge and purge'. Many bulimics consume much more than their 'share' of food in the binging phase -- infact, that is why many bulimics are able to hide it -- even though they are throwing up they are still getting enough to stick around to avoid drastic, catastrophic weightloss that gets noticed.

I never stated that I agree with iryna. If you think I implied it, you are confused. I don't really agree with iryna at all, in fact. And I don't think people with eating disorders choose to have them. However, I do believe that they fall into these traps due to insecurity and some desire to reach a fake standard of beauty perpetuated by western society. That in no way says they choose such lifestyles. If anything, I'd call them tragically mislead.

And eitak, Hitler wasn't a fan of natural selection at all. If he was, he would have sat back and let the supposedly "inferior" groups waddle right into extinction. I, on the other hand, am a fan of social Darwinism. The strong survive and the weak die. There's no need for me to interfere in the process as Hitler did. People that won't make it in this world will be eliminated naturally. And unlike Hitler, I don't think NS's targets are other races and gay people.

okay, i'm sorry, i misunderstood you.
would you then not give anyone medicine? even if they're dying and could easily be saved?

Ouch!! The only thing that I can think of is that she possibly thought you were kidding? Still though.... NOT cool. :(

Ozymandias: While you are correct that there is the binge portion of Bulimia, many people including health professionals blow the binge aspect way out of proportion. Not every bulimic sits down each day and consumes an outrageous proportion of food. In a way, many bulimics view binges as being full or uncomfortably full. And they can feel this way even after what an average person views as a regular meal. Binges don't necessarily have to be like 10,000 calories. There are many examples of that scenario, however its not something that consistently happens hour after hour.

Officerpat:
One day, after genetic resistance and evolution takes place its possible that that may occur. That's no where in our lifetime. Maybe in billions of years if our planet hasn't exploded by then. Although millions of deaths are caused by eating disorders and other diseases, it's not going to wipe us out of the cycle of life anytime soon. So until it's necessary that you learn about the different issues in the world around you. I'm happy because you do speak from some experience, but not everyone who has suffered is like your girlfriend. In fact the majority of us are not inspired by fashion models or beauty queens.

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