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i realize you're all joking, but as a victim of abuse, it really isn't funny. op, it really depends on the situation. she may have been a psycho who used you and led you on, but considering she's telling you this, that's probably not the case. when girls politely decline, pay attention. it'll save you this heartbreak.

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47- I'm not sure you're understanding the term "friend-zoned". it's this magical place where you won't get asked to bed you'll get asked to go shopping. Oh, and the most you'll get sexually is blue balls.

You shouldn't wait that long man... But besides: Girls don't like to be treated nice, not in the first sight... I haven't really been successful bein nice to women, when the goal was to get a girlfriend or an ONS. Just works for gettin female friends...

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If you mean that guys should be the opposite of nice, then no, I disagree. I would however say that guys shouldn't be TOO nice. If a guy teases a girl, it's usually a sign - to her, especially - that he likes her. However, if a guy is JUST nice then she's never going to fancy him. It's too boring. He needs something else, like being funny, witty, charming... The thing is, he does say "secretly". So either she really didn't know, and thought it was weird that he was doing nice thing

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Of course I don't really mean that we guys should only be the opposite of nice. It might be as you say: Tease her and your chances probably raise... And I agree if one says, that you appear only as "a good friend" if you only act like that for years, or only months. BUT, I've been dating a lot of girls, and invited them to cinema and stuff. I also tried to speak my mind sometimes, but sometimes our minds fit together so good, that I mostly couldn't disagree my opponent... So what?

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