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By Anonyname - / Sunday 18 May 2014 19:14 / United Kingdom
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its not a problem if you have the time and resources to give your children a decent up bringing. However, if that isn't the case then your dad may have a point.

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#37 for now china is the only place I know that limits the amount of children a person can have. I never really care how many children a person has as long as they can provide for them.

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#65 never said the overpopulated comment was an opinion, did i? i said people shouldnt judge parents for having more than two kids because in their opinion, two is more than enough. #69 sorry for not wording it to exactly what you said, but what i said still stands. if you think it will be overpopulated in the future, dont have children then.

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68, 74- I stated a fact, you both stated opinions. Yea our world may become overpopulated later on down the road but it isn't now. We have enough resources to adequately take care of all humans but we choose to exploit poorer countries and let the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Don't focus on what other people do with their families. If they want a bunch of kids and can take care of them, don't worry about it. Just focus on yourself. Too many problems are caused by people that don't know how to mind their own business.

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68- Most of the CO2 emissions come from the United states because we consume more energy than any other country. We are nowhere near the largest country in the world by mass or population. It's not necessarily a matter of population but a matter of greed and no sense of conservation. Telling people to have less kids isn't going to stop people from buying trucks that get 15mpg ot using less electricity or prevent big businesses from building factories that pollute the atmosphere. Get real, man.

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@66 What's the capacity then, since you know so much about the topic? NO ONE knows the carrying capacity of the planet so you cannot say we're 'no where near it.'

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Oh yeah, let's be like China and impose a child limit for couples. That's a standard of logic and compassion every nation should uphold. Now, who wants to help me scoop these infant girls out of the gutter?

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While I agree 29, different strokes for different folks. As long as they're well off enough & can provide enough love & patience for each child, all the power to them I suppose.

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I'm a fourth child and I gotta say I'm really feeling the love on this thread. Personally I think people should have as many children as they want as long as they can support them and care for them, but that's just my opinion.

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I've learnt in biology the natural human population should be around 10 million. Yet here we are with 700 times that number. The earth is already severely overpopulated

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#67, what does it matter if the child's conception wasn't wanted/planned? Obviously OP and her husband want/plan to keep their baby, or they wouldn't be announcing it to the family. Details like that are irrelevant now.

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They're not irrelevant at all. The lack of planning with child conception could be the reason the original poster's father is upset. Perhaps he'd like them to start settling for the family they already have.

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#53 you're saying that it's the woman's fault? Whys the guy gotta stick it in? Why doesn't he wear a condom? Why is it her responsibility to either take birth control or abort? I'm not saying they aren't both at fault but really dude, you're completely blaming women.

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You do realize that 4 children is not THAT many kids in a household, right?? Not that long ago, 4 kids per household was an average. I'm from a family of 4 kids myself and we were all raised well and taken care of properly. If OP and her husband have the means to take care and love a forth child, why shouldn't they!? The fact that you feel entitled to be dissapointed at OP for having a forth child is really silly to me!

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@53- How sickeningly misogynistic can you be? "Women" are easy? In general? Do not generalize that women are particularly promiscuous- and besides that, do not act as if men can't be just as promiscuous as women. That said, there is nothing wrong with promiscuity of either sex so long as they are adults and capable of keeping themselves and their relationships physically and emotionally healthy. We could do away with the negative connotations. Birth control pills can be expensive and even difficult to access without a good healthcare plan. If two people want to have sex, the responsibility is on BOTH of them to access condoms and choose to use them to do so safely. A man also has to agree to unprotected sex to create a child- and it's not a woman's fault that she just happened to be born of the gender capable of pregnancy. Get with the times before I set my bra on fire and throw it at you.

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To be fair, whilst it is the parents choice, we do have a massive overpopulation problem at the moment and the issueof whether it's ethical to have lots of kids is becoming debated more and more lately. Also, we used to have a lot of kids because life expectancy wasn't great and half of them would probably die before adulthood. That's not really the case anymore.

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there is a lot more to it than finances. How many kids can you reasonably give the amount of individual attention needed to? how many kids can you effectively teach to be productive members of society? it should not be just a financial status symbol.

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