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The amount of "Principle" errors/ "Principal" corrections around here are too damn high!

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You do realize that there are a lot of people who check this website and for whom English is not their mother tongue? Guess what, I'm one of them :)

You are well versed in all things poetic. Haiku'd you go wrong with puns?

I think this may be the best pun I've read on here...

There was no rhyme or reason in her accusations.

If verse comes to verse, you can make a case to the school administration, because the teacher's actions have neither rhyme nor reason.

I see what you did there.

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35- lol... Love it!! :D

Seriously?! This is real? I guess i shouldn't be surprised with the idiocy of this world....smh.

I can see why if it's from like a year ago and the kid wants to be lazy. But damn in the same week maybe even same day, that's ****** up.

No, it is very real. We were warned about self-plagarism as well. It is not something you even want to attempt, because you will always get caught.

I don't see why that would legitimately be a rule. It's not just dumb, it's so ridiculous it's almost morally wrong. If you can prove you wrote it it shouldn't be a problem.

How does one plagiarize their self? That doesn't make sense to me...

Yeah, once you post it online it's considered published. In the academic world, teachers don't want things that have already been published. They want to see your fresh work before anyone else does. You're also, in most cases, not allowed to use work you've written prior to the class for an assignment unless you have the teacher's permission. This all falls under self-plagiarism; although OP posted the assignment after writing it for the current class, there's no way for the teacher to know when it was written unless it was dated. If there was no date physically on the assignment (not the date it was posted, but the date it was written), for all the teacher knows, the student could've written it the previous semester for something entirely different, and it wouldn't be fresh, original work. Without the teacher's permission to post it, this was not okay in the academic world.

Not to mention, even if it was dated, OP could've slapped a date on it right before he/she posted it. There's no real way to prove when the assignment was written unless OP pulls it up on the computer and shows when the document was created.

I'm not arguing here, I'm sure its real but my question is how? the definition of plagiarism is to use someone else's work and claim it as your own. Self-plagiarism is a misnomer and shouldn't be possible. ITS STILL YOUR OWN WORK!

It's not plagiarism in the sense that you're stealing someone else's work, but technically you're "stealing" from yourself in order to get out of actually doing the work for the assignment. I'm not arguing what OP did here; I'm sure that this was just one of those unfortunate cases where you get in trouble because of a stupid technicality. However, if he decided he'd be "sneaky" and use a poem he'd previously written to get out of coming up with a fresh one for the class, then it's considered cheating, which is really what plagiarism is a form of, as well. Yes, it might would be his original work, but he didn't come up with new material for the assignment, thus he cheated which is still breaking the rules.

Thank you for clarifying this. As moronic as this is, it is completely true. I have a poem I wrote for class and I waited until my teacher gave it back to me and I saw the grade in the gradebook before posting it online. To me that was just being extra cautious, and now that I see there is an actual rule concerning this I'm glad I did.

#22 you beat me; I just said almost the same thing to #2. And it's not because of the "stupidity of the world", it is to prevent someone from just digging into their old homework and pulling something out and reusing it; it is so the student continues writing new ideas and expanding and whatnot. I think it's silly, but it is still against the academic contract.

I love what happened in this thread. A nice discussion about unfair rules, and I even learned a little about academic standards. Thank you everyone.

If only everyone is as grateful as you. I posted a similar explanation to #2 and I got downvoted while someone saying I was wrong got upvoted. Oh well.

@54- That can also easily be changed.

It is nice to read an actual conversation instead of the mud slinging you usually see. Not to mention most of the grammar and spelling was correct so my eyes and brain were especially pleased! Thank You!!!

However stupid some people may argue it to be, I believe that the self plagiarism policy is a necessary evil. If it were not in place, you'll be writing twenty articles talking about the same thing over and over again - new ideas will not flourish. Shame that OP did not familiarise himself with the plagiarism policies, which are fundamentally important if he were (and I highly suspect so) in the humanities academic world.

122, I thought about that after making my post and it was too late to edit. Thanks for throwing that in there!

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31 - You are hands down my favorite commenter on this site.

I approve of this comment, and I also confirm that I hold no bias towards this situation.

Best Haiku ever.