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By shastadoe - / Monday 6 August 2012 06:37 / United States - Los Banos
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  loloalltheway  |  15

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  Trix_Disorder  |  15

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  loloalltheway  |  15

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  HazzaBoo  |  15

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  loloalltheway  |  15

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  Myo_fml  |  15

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  HazzaBoo  |  15

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  Trix_Disorder  |  15

True. But cha don't need to be original to know it's bad literature. I've actually read the books. Don't think my hatred is unfounded. My philosophy is you have to try something to actually hate it.

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  Drigr  |  15

19 year old male. Read 3/4 of the twilight series before my gf and I broke up. They aren't as bad as everyone who hates them claims they are. I bet 90% of the people who hate on Twilight haven't even read the fucking books. Sure, its a sappy love story, and its not my favorite telling of the vampire myth, but its fairly well written for teenage audiences. The movies don't do the books justice either. Kristen Stewart is a horrible actress. Thought so in the Messsengers, Twilight, and Snow White and the Huntsman. Also, the first movie was done on such a low budget, I think some of the efects were done in like Sony Vegas.

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  loloalltheway  |  15

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  HazzaBoo  |  15

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  Trix_Disorder  |  15

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  loloalltheway  |  15

60- not only teenagers like the series, some middle aged women also like the series, they are a lot older then us "average teenagers" so according to you they should have developed "the proper taste" , right?

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  Trix_Disorder  |  15

I guess it's not the books that I hate, really. It's the disappointment and a bit of resentment at my generation and older for making such books popular, when there is so much good literature out there. C'est la vie. Edit: Where did I say that all people eventually have good taste?

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  AussieChild  |  15

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  luna2152  |  15

50- I have actually read the books, just to see what the hype was all about. I've also seen the first two movies. While I will agree with you that the books are marginally better than the movies, the books are still terrible. Which makes the movies like, terrible with sprinkles.

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  Zoh_Aubrey  |  15

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  Trix_Disorder  |  15

70 - "The Host" was decent enough, for what it was. Many times better than Twilight, anyway. But I disagree that the Twilight series was well-written. What is a book without good characters and plot?

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  loloalltheway  |  15

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  Drigr  |  15

And yet... Look at how popular rap and pop has become... But hey, who am I to judge other peoples taste just because I personally dislike it? I dislike country too, but I respect people's opinions and their ability to listen to what they like, even if they don't feel the same about my music. I wont say I'm upset that my generation has made modern rap and pop as popular as it is, what does upset me about my generation is peoples intolerance for people who like things different from them.

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  Drigr  |  15

73, are the books horribly written, or do they just have shitty characters and plot? The level of detail and immersion into the story was actually pretty decent, storyline aside.

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  Trix_Disorder  |  15

I can recognize when country and rap is good. There is good country, and good rap, even if I don't like it. There is good literature, and bad literature. And yeah, I'm going to judge people based on their taste in literature, just as others judge based on taste in clothing, music, lifestyle choices, etc. That's MY personal preference. :P

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  Trix_Disorder  |  15

I don't know why you keep quoting "the proper taste." I never said that, just said taste. And next time, I'll try to be less brief to avoid confusion. But I wasn't trying to imply that all people eventually have good taste with age... that would be silly. Like I said, looks like my profile's been reset. Don't really take offence to gender confusion on the internet, bound to happen.

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  Drigr  |  15

80, vampires themselves are a myth, same with werewolves, there are so many different ways you can portray a myth whose main defining roles is "bloodsucker" and "transforms into a wolf." So theres really no "real" vampire books. And my mom would probably argue that... I believe the correct author is Brian Lumley... has the best vampire books

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  AussieChild  |  15

75- I mean that the author uses a broad range of imagery and descriptive detail in the books. However, the whole idea behind vampires, werewolves etc is a weak concept, and the characters were poorly thought up, without much background. I personally think that things worth reading are classics like Jane Austen, Little Women, or anything by Jodi Picoult. My point was that the author had a real opportunity to become something big, and yet chose to divulge into poor teen fantasy. I dislike twilight, but feel sorry for the author

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  Trix_Disorder  |  15

Yeah, "The Host" is another book by Meyers, which has actual characters and an interesting plot (even if it's sorta been done many times before). She's capable of better writing, that's for sure. I again disagree with you on the "okay writing" front. Once you've seen the same descriptive metaphors five times in the same chapter, or the same adjective three times on the same page... that's shoddy editor work AND bad/lazy writing. But yes, setting was certainly strongest out of the three (characters, plot, setting)/

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  MDTeddy  |  15

That boy has some issues. That was no reason to end a relationship. He might be single for a while until he finds a girl who thinks she is a vampire or at least into Twilight.

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  ShyAnn29  |  15

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  DerpyDerper  |  15

I agree with you 100%. I tried to read it, i really did. I remember I picked up a copy and I couldn't get past the first couple chapters. I think I read up to page 200 or so. I kept telling myself "It will get better." Nope.

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AussieChild- Listen to yourself. You say Meyers has some talent, yet you turn around to say that the plot and characters suck. Those two elements to any story directly dictates just how talented an author is, which in this case is mediocre at best, insulting at worst.

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Also, that "broad range of imagery and descriptive detail" comes directly from a thesaurus. Even then, she only uses "perfect" or "shiny silver Volvo" to the point when it's grating. If she could give some real imagination to her sentence structure, then maybe she could have a chance at being considered a competent writer.

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  letmehavemytea  |  15

I'm ashamed to admit that I read all of the books, just so I would know what it was about and why people hated it. The first books was actually...okay. I mean, it's still a horribly written book that doesn't deserve a fandom, but it was meh. It just got worse from there though. Piece of crap series, shouldn't have been turned into a movie as it made it even worse. I'll take Buffy over Bella any day.

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  SammyS2012  |  15

Okay, so the sparkling is weird, but that doesn't mean everything about the book is terrible. I actually enjoyed the book; I also like Marked and HP (my favourite), and Jane Austen's novels, and Wuthering Heights, and Maximum Ride and whatnot. So people who like Twilight don't necessarily have bad taste. Yes there are many flaws in the story with characters and plot, and definitely not my favourite, but to completely bash anyone who likes it is ridiculous (I have to admit many fans can ruin the series for some).

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  HairyPunisher  |  15

50, I disagree. I read the four books and I just find Meyers to be very sexist in her writing of Bella. she has no will power or esteem of her own and she lets Edward and Jake constantly boss her around. The stories hype marrying young, virginity being priceless, and letting men tell you what to do. I also didn't like the fact that her character development was stale. Buffy, Angel, True Blood, and The Vampire Diaries at least had some twists.

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  stary1722  |  15

I don't see why people are hating on people who are reading twilight.... I mean shouldn't you be happy that someone from my generation is actually reading a book? Lol XD

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  Zoh_Aubrey  |  15

81-Anne Rice's work is classic vampirism with a modern twist that is sexy, dark and nefarious. Also beautifully written with plot twists and heart-wrenching characters (Interview with the Vampire is the best) and of course no sparkly Mary and Gary Sues.

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  peachyFML  |  15

I actually enjoyed the Twilight Saga, but I was 7 or 8 at the time. The Host was better written, but not great by any means. I'm a big Laurell Hamilton fan, if any of you care for a bit of fantasy mixed in with reality. The main character is a bad-ass. Edit: The character I'm referring to is Anita in the Anita Blake: Vampire Hunter series.

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  ilovemusic0205  |  15

I don't understand why everyone is trying to analyze twilight. It was a book created for the teenage mind, not really the mind of an adult. You older folks on here can't really say it's terrible because it's not written with you in mind. I think it's a great young adult novel. What teenage girl doesn't like a sappy romance book?

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  DerpyDerper  |  15

227 "you older folks" oh gosh, girl. Um I made a comment about trying to read the book. I am a 14 year old girl & I love romance stories. I really do. The thing is though, when I read a romance, I usually want to read about something I would want or something I think is cute. Twilight is not cute. I also do NOT want a life like Bella. She seems so weak and emotional, it's annoying! Edward & Jacob are also complete jerks. The story has no fun in it & no real excitement. As well as trying to read the books, I've watched the movies with some of my friends. It was just...not something I would really like at all. So yea, this teenage girl did not like that kind of "romance" story.

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  ilovemusic0205  |  15

227- My comment was not in reference to everyone, in both the aspect of liking the book and the older folks comment. The book may not be your taste but that does not mean it was not good. Some girls out there are actually emotional and weak like Bella. I don't think Twilight was meant to be "cute".

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  paddy4169  |  15

Just because girls out there are "emotional and weak." Does not mean that the book is a great piece of literature set to go down in history. You said it yourself, people are able to relate to the settings that the characters are in, that's what makes the book so successful. What I actually came here to say was at the end of the day there is no point getting wrapped up in movies, and books until the point where you are dying just for a piece of Edward's hair. People should spend more time on other things like oh I don't know, having a life.

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  MilkmanPsycho  |  34

Well that's a new way...tell your gf something so ridiculous she'll laugh so you can break up with her. Or at least that's what I think his was some original break up plan...or maybe he was just strange and I'm thinking to highly of him.

By  Marifer98  |  17

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  olpally  |  17

53- along with, lol, yolo, your stupid, that sux, what a shitty situation, u mad, bro?, also:: doesn't matter, had sex, face-palm and other ridiculous jokes that are overused... Everyone needs to refrain from these stupid ass comments. This has been a public service announcement by Michael. Move along now.

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  Cartera  |  17

I honestly think that because the community is more thoughtful than funny, that by being compassionate and kind they will get auto-likes. Just my take on things.

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  SneezyC  |  17

Wow I didn't know you can hear this?? Hmm ... You must have super sonic hearing cause I'm pretty sure no body else can hear OP. Now, we can read it...

By  SmittyJA24  |  37

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