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By phant776 - / Friday 13 May 2011 04:02 / United States
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Not sure what the laws are in the US, but I'm pretty sure him pointing a gun at your head is illegal. Cops are not allowed to shoot to kill unless you were posing an immediate fatal threat to them or civilians. if you did pull a gun on him, I think he would have to shoot to restrain you, not shoot to kill.

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actually codezlol if a person pulls a weapon and refuses to put it down the cops are trained to shoot to kill if it's a baseball bat or something they'd probably just get tasered they get tasered or brought down by physical force if they attack without a weapon

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And this is why I HATE pigs yah something like this happened to my dad... He had a pair of scissors (don't ask me why lmao) in his glove capartment and they fell out when he went to get his registraion and he got a gun pointed to his head because the pig thought it was a weapon!!! my dad is harmless

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yes cops do carry guns and they dont need to be that paranoid. our society has become so afraid that it is insane. we need to man up and get over it.

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I'm pretty sure when he said "pigs don't carry guns", and then used a more respectful term to talk about cops, he meant that actual pigs don't carry guns.

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I know how this feels because I've been DWB'd a couple if times. Although if that cop stopped me, I wouldn't be here right now. I'd be shot up with 58 bullets on some Sean Bell shit. Fuck pigs. Not cops trying to keep us safe. Pigs who think having a gun and a shiny safety pin makes them tough.

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Dude your dad is harmless but the hundreds of people who pull weapons (including scissors) and harm or kill cops every year are not harmless. Most of the police deaths are from routine things that go very very wrong - like a traffic stop. It sucks that your dad went through that, but it's the people who are so fucked up that they have created that kind of fear in the police who are to blame.

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i may be wrong in this, but i'm pretty sure the policy in america is always shoot to kill. And besides, if you think someone is pulling a gun on you, you would aim your gun at their head, so they knew that even if they shot you you would kill them too, if you aim for their arm its hardly a proper incentive for them not to shoot you.

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some cops actually care about enforcing laws and protrcting us. some dont, which probably are just over conceided above the law assholes. yeah there are alot of them but if a cop feels threatened he has the right to protect himself because taking the "maybe its not a gun" chance can be fatal. so im pretty fine knowing a cop is doing his job. but using a baton on a guy after making him shit himself is a bit odd to me

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I want to know why the fuck you would exit the vehicle when the cop hasn't told you to. you're just asking to get hit then.

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95, Shut that ass up. Don't call police officers pigs. Did they shoot your dad? No. So shut up. If someone seemed to be reaching for scissors, i'd be defensive too.

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Also to 199. He said PIGS don't carry guns, because they don't. Whens the last time you saw a hog at the zoo with a gun? Never? I thought so. Loser.

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I understand people have had bad experiences with police, but the negativity and calling them 'pigs' is a little extreme. At the end of the day, we need police. With out them we would be fucked.

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Explain? If the op made a quick motion out of sight towards a handle shaped object (as would be required to undo the seatbelt, unless that's what op was pulled over for) it would be perfectly reasonable for the officer to point his weapon at the op until it was clear there was no danger. Hands on the wheel, move them only when told to. Move slowly and narrate your actions so he knows what you're doing. Growing up in South Central LA (not as bad here in Canada) I learned that getting out of t

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89- he was asked for license and registration, so he was getting it, I'm assuming he turned back around documents in hand to see the gun pointed. he screwed up if he got out of his car without being told to, but not before that.

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That's why I said narrate and move slowly, it saves on that kind of incident. He didn't do wrong at that point, but he could have done better.

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Is that what it seemed we were doing? My apologies, we were simply discussing the situational merit of the finer nuances of police/civilian interaction as espoused by our differing cultural backgrounds. On a side note w00t for the big stick.

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From the right angle anything can look like a gun. OP is in California - my guess is that the cop knows at least one fellow officer that was shot on a routine traffic stop. To him even more things could look like possible guns. Ops problem is that he got out of the car. Even up here in Canada we don't get out of the car unless asked to.

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c'mon, don't tell me you guys haven't heard of the dreaded coffee gun. it looks like a regular old coffee cup... but... when you pull the trigger... WHABAM!!!! you get nailed. it's totally lethal. my dad has like three.

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They weren't forced into taking that job. Just because there are some psychos out there doesn't mean EVERYONE is a crazy fuck wielding a weapon.

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I'm going to school for it and frankly - as cynical as this may sound.. there are more "crazy fucks" out there than you realize

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They've been trained to always be on guard. Would you rather an officer get killed because he wasn't?

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I'm sure that cop had someone pull a gun on him before causing him to be more cautious. it could have been night time when a cop is more likely to run into a dangerous person. OP kinda had it coming when he tried to exit the vehicle. He's lucky that cop holstered his weapon and used a baton instead.

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people say that but whens the last time a cop got shot where they didn't shoot first? The bravery of the police is greatly overstated.

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"I stepped out" not "he told me to step out" and the cop wouldn't hit him if he told him to step out. If that happened then OP could report him.

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possibly, but I know (unless it's there for show and nothing more, or things have changed since I last tried to post a FML) that you are limited on how many characters one is allowed in a FML, and left that out

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I think the authenticity of a lot of FML's wouldn't be questioned if the amount of characters allowed would increase. I'm not saying we should be allowed to write a novel on here, but it's really difficult to make yourself clear in, what is it, 300 characters? As far as this particular fml goes, it's a huge YDI if he stepped out of the car without being asked. We also don't know if he still had a gun pointed to his head at this point, which would also be a huge YDI haha.

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I'm glad other people noticed this. It sucks that he made that mistake, but if he didn't tell you to get out of the car, you can't blame him for attempting to protect himself if he needed to.

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definitely. op didn't say the cop asked him to get out and if he didn't that's a YDI BUT I'm guessing if the cop thought he had a gun he would ask the person to "step out the car with their hands behind their head" lol

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Do I really need to explain the joke? For fucks sake it's not that bloody difficult to understand.

...that sucks but why would you get out of car unless asked by officer...?? i mean you could have explained that it's not a gun...cop might have thought that you are coming out of car to attack him...!!!!

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That would be incredibly hard to believe, as most cops are Ok with you getting out of you vehicle for whatever reason, so long as you tell them first (I'm assuming the OP did)....Then again I know I've have a taser shoved in my face,guns,batons and car impounded by idiotic cops for "Possesion of weapons" in my boot....Yes officers, my spare tire & tire iron will magically leap out from the other end of my car and kill you......

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