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I am not normally one to instantly say call CPS, or the equivalent, but a baby that young can not SURVIVE on kool aide. Baby's need ALL of the vitamins and nutrients breast milk/formula offer. I read in the news not too long ago about a vegan mom giving her newborn a milk alternative and the baby died of malnourishment. So report it, and save that baby's life.

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34 - I thought the vegan mom's baby died because she breast-fed it, but because of her diet the baby died of malnutrition either way this woman needs to be separated from that baby NOW. what the fuck is wrong with some people!?

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Actually, the baby died from pneumonia and not being introduced to solid foods early enough (though the vegan breastmilk may have put it at higher risk). Although it does cause problems occasionally due to lack of care and research, as long as the mother is taking B12 supplements (and possibly one or two others), I'm pretty sure vegan breastmilk technically shouldn't be a problem.

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Does that complete "The More You Know" section of the comments? Cause I just learned a lot, and I thought this wasnt an educational site. But what do I know? Call CPS. Some people shouldnt breed, that mother was one of them.

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I would hope to think even honey boo boo's parents aren't stupid enough to feed an infant kool aid.

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Neither of the products she had to feed the baby are nutritional enough. I would definitely call CPS and inform them that this psycho woman actually preferred you to feed her child kool aid over the formula, since she's dumb enough to attempt kool aid she probably didn't even attempt to breastfeed. And before everyone goes in attack mode, no you're not dumb if you don't breastfeed, my point is this woman probably didn't even try as she thinks sugar filled powdered artificially flavored drink is

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it was just breastmilk from the mother which i suppose from her diet would technically make it vegan breastmilk. if its the same news story i saw then the problem was that they were only feeding them breastmilk which caused the children to be malnourished due to their age.

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114, that's where you're wrong. There is a HUGE benefit to breastfeeding over bottle feeding. I don't think if you bottle feed you're inferior, I just know that it is not best for baby, and yes I DID formula feed at one point so I have a valid point on both. My best friend bottle feeds. She can't stand it. Have you ever tasted formula or breast milk? A baby should be fed no matter what, but in Africa they don't have a choice but to breastfeed and wet nurse and extended nurse. I researched formul

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116, that is awful that the baby ended up malnourished.. The vegan mother should have been supplementing with vitamins and possibly protein. Because trust me, my son at 26 lbs and 7 months 3 weeks 2 days old, 1% solids, 99% breast milk, is doing great. So it depends on the nutrients in the moms diet. She should have been consulting with baby's pediatrician.

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Is your son moved to an all vegan diet? (to supplement breast feeding if you haven't stopped yet). My sister is a pediatric nurse and gets one or two children a month through, seriously ill from malnutrition because vegan parents didn't properly adapt their diet for the infant (which I find insane, as what infants should eat seems so obvious and intuitive to me). The problem she usually finds is exotic grains and plants in the diet that the child can't digest, or which overload the child with he

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107 my mom breastfed my twin sister and I but with her second pregnancy she found she wasn't lactating, maybe that's why kool aid mom didn't try breastfeeding, though feeding your infant and expecting it to be ok is unacceptable and she's a bad mother

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Breast feeding provides natural nutrients and antioxidants and things that cannot be properly duplicated in a lab. Formula is an attempt to duplicate the benefits of breast milk but synthetically made things are not always as good as natural. I understand some people need to feed formula, and in those cases formula is the best thing for that child (not kool-aide) but if at all possible, breast milk is the best thing for a developing child from birth to at least one year of age. Even if it is pum

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133. Clearly you need to do some research. Maybe my taste buds are screwed up as well as my fiancé's, and my sister's. because breast milk is sweet while formula has a chalky nasty flavor. Breast is best as long as you aren't filling it with junk. Formula is full of junk. Research it using the link from 146, because clearly you haven't done any research on the facts of breast milk and formula. Know better do better.

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Breast milk provides enzymes and antibodies that can never be found in formula, especially colostrum (thick yellow fluid that the mother produces before she actually starts making milk). Babies also take longer to and digest less of formula than they do formula (which is why their stools are so different than breast fed babies). No kid will die if being fed an FDA approved formula but they are NOT the nutritional equivalent of breast milk.

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I'm sorry you couldn't breast feed 133, and formula is the very best thing you could have done for your baby in that situation and I'm sorry the nurses made you feel bad about it. I'm glad you tried breast feeding, I respect anyone who tries it. :)

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There is still a huge difference. That's awesome your son is doing great. Research what's actually in the formula and then research what is in breast milk. They must have changed the formula of the formula because it was gross when I last tried it. To each their own I am just offering up information and stating my opinions. Not looking to out formula feeders down. Great moms feed their children. The one the FML is referring to was wrong for trying to give her child kool aid. I have a friend who'

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#119 - not to mention the whole passing on the mothers immune system through breast milk to the infant. Science says the first 6 months, breast feeding is the best option if possible. After that, baby is building their own immune system and either method is sufficient. But what do I know? I was formula fed because I didn't like my mother's breast milk and wouldn't eat and my immune system is amazing.

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Breastmilk is the best thing for an infant. Sometimes that's not possible, and I understand that. But in no way is formula equivalent to breastmilk.

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222, 6 months is great to breastfeed, but breast milk doesn't stop developing the immune system after then. It continues to adjust to baby's/toddler's bodily needs as they grow and breastfeed, my sons immune system is wonderful, he's been sick maybe 3 times in 8 months. My immune system is also great, I was formula fed as well, my mom was never informed of the difference between colostrum and milk, so she thought it was infected. Any amount of breastfeeding is great for anyone. As long as they t

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Well, with that logic regular milk from a cow is "vegan milk" too... and thus lacks in all nutrients? *eyes rolling*

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165- My friend had a baby who refuse to eat, he lost a ton of weight rapidly and they thought because of her breast reduction 7 yrs ago she wasnt lactating properly. He ended up being tube fed for just over 6 months and when he finally did start eating lost a lot of weight again. Their pediatrician recommended adding butter to everything. Checking labels for high fat foods such a greek yogurts while that worked for keeping his weight stable he wasnt gaining so she tried the butter and he gained

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164 please do not patronise me. my decision does not require your or anyone elses validation. breast is best was debunked at least a year ago and was published in many newspapers and news sites. they concluded there was no measurable difference. look at a class of xhildren. can you tell at a glance which ones were breastfed. nope not at all. dont assume that because my opinion doesnt fit your ethos that it isnt an informed one.

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If OP didn't then they are just as bad as the mother. Babies cannot protect themselves so when their parents are complete idiots they need people like OP to step up and help them.

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52, you're retarded. Giving a baby that young koolaid and not formula or breast milk will kill it. You're comparing someone calling the cops about someone smoking weed and calling the cops about someone essentially killing their infant??? Yeah, like I said, you're retarded.

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No, 'cause a consenting adult smoking weed isn't doing anyone else harm. Feeding a newborn baby anything but breast milk or formula is neglect/abuse which leads to death and is no way related to "ratting out" someone having a joint. C'mon.

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Really 52? Just so you know there's a difference between smoking weed and killing your infant because you're a complete moron. I have often stated my opinion on weed. I am all for it, it's your body, whatever. I even whole heartedly believe it should be legalized. As for you sir, please do not reproduce please. You will probably be just as bad as the woman OP described.

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If OP does work at a daycare it is their responsibility and legal duty to report any and all instances of abuse and/or neglect [suspected or confirmed] to the authorities. If that child does come to harm and it comes up that OP failed to say anything, like they knew the mother was giving it sugar water at 3 weeks of age, they could be held criminally liable as well.

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Given the shit record of CPS (removing kids who didnt need to be removed, and not taking valid child abuse calls seriously and the kid ends up murdered), I don't have much faith CPS would do much

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Kool-aide must be a magical drink to cure diarrhea. For a 3 week old their stools will and should be close to diarrhea- that is normal. As for a 3-4 month old suffering from diarrhea it is best to add a little bit of rice cereal into a bottle of breastmilk or formula to harden the stool up some but not to much. I can tell you never have had any kids #143.

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4 month olds eh? Why not feed them one container of stage one prune food. It helps and you're not feeding shit to your child that they cannot disgest. Babies cannot break down dyes in kool aid and it's too much sugar for their tummies to handle!!! UGH.

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216 - can't really support you on the 'dyes just pass through and are harmless' attitude. most dyes are petroleum based and can cause serious personality changes in children. we noticed that our near three year old has dramatic responses to red dye #40. he gets violently hyper and feels ill. he can even identify if the food he is eating has it in it; he will throw it away. the other colors aren't a whole lot better. just our experience. take it with a grain of salt.

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Childhood obesity, here we come... It can't be healthy to teach your children to like sugar that early on life. I'm not even going to speak about the nutrious values of Kool Aid VS formula.

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i would agree but good parenting and IQ do not go hand im hand. a parental apptitude test would be better.

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There should be a required parental aptitude test after an also required parenting class you have to take, and if you don't pass it by the time you have your baby, you get your kid taken away until you do.

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No no no, not an IQ Test, because lots of people with a normal or even high IQ will still be horrible with children. Isn't there a lot of things you need to do before you adopt a child? Can't we just apply that to every parent to be? Or some mandatory lessons!

Yes, hopefully you informed some type of authority. A 3 week old infant should have anything but formula. May god be with that baby!!

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I hate women who judge other women for choosing not to breastfeed. Personally, I stand behind any woman's choice of supplement to her infant, but sick of the high and might breast feeders who turn their noses up at formula moms.

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with all due respect 108 whtly do you hate forumla so much. it is basically the same as breastmilk and is not yucky. there are mums that tear their hair out because they cant breastfeed and mums like me who were bullied by the nurses becauae they could not breastfeed all becauae people hold an opinion like yours.

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i was in the same boat as you with not being able to feed because of problems but rather tahn put my son through the hardships i switxhed to formula. my son is three and is a normal happy healthy kid in fact he is doing a lot better healtg wise than both my friends kids who were breastfed. neither is tje better option overall. its what suits your family better. anyone who hates bottle feeding really needs to take a look at themselves as that is quite an extreme view to take. formula is not nasty

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You did bash formula feeders. You outright said it should be last resort and was 'yucky'. You suggested wet nurses and breast milk banks first. Hurrah for you for your sanctimonious opinions and guilt shaming if mothers that formula feed but trying to cover that with, 'but I support it because I had to do it but felt horrible about it and my website supports it', while still saying how bad it is. I could not breast feed. I tried. Mastitis and lack of production and my medications made trying to

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148, I never bashed them and I never bashed about the coffee. I drank soda and coffee through my pregnancy and continue to drink it while I breastfeed. I have slowed my intake, so before attacking me regarding that reread my comments. I said formula was yucky. I didn't say formula moms are bad moms. Whether you breastfeed or formula feed you are a wonderful mom. So don't ever assume I think otherwise. My best friends formula feed. I don't bash them and they don't bash me either! We have similar

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And 136 my son did not go through any hardships because of my choice to breastfeed him. He's extremely happy, extremely healthy, developing on time and beyond his age, as well as being very well fed. He learns quick. Feed your baby how you need to but don't knock breastfeeding until you try it. I've tried both and prefer breastfeeding. It's a great bonding experience and saves me money as I can't afford to buy formula if I wanted to. Formula feeders are in no way lazy, I couldn't do it, I can ba

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Formula and breast milk are not the same. The only thing I can say are the same is that it puts food in the babies belly. I had to use it when I work before I learn of donor milk. I had issues pumping and made little pumping, but did fine nursing. If you read the ingredients in formula you will understand how different formula is verse to breast milk. Please research and educate yourself in that part before saying 'it's basically the same' because it is not.

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168, not all women respond to a pump, so it's no wonder you didn't have trouble nursing. I can't imagine working and not being home with my son again. I did it for two months but every day at work I'd get stuck on a call and I'd become engorged. It was awful. I didn't have time to eat lunch and I had to eat while I pumped. My son was becoming extremely irritable and we couldn't handle it. So I had to quit. And I agree with you, they need to look up the difference. Breast milk is full of living s

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123 You ma'am, are OBSESSED with boobs, I mean look at your screen name! I don't know whether that stands for something or if you made this profile specifically for this FML, or a joke and an unbelievable coincidence. Im not even going to go into how weird it is that so many people are tasting breastmilk or how weird it is to picture someone feeding their baby and crying while the baby is just enjoying a meal. It should also be noted that a babies taste buds are not fully developed at such a you

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mmhmm. And my medications wired the hell out of my first born, that she received through breast milk, but I had to be on said medications. And had to go back on another which was potentially dangerous for a baby. And she was getting constantly infected milj from my constant breast infections in the one that actually produced breast milk. But sooooooo much better for her than formula. And to the other poster, I wish my kids got the memo on formula fed babies sleeping longer. They were up every 2

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by the way. I have seen many breastfeeding moms have to adjust their diets due to gassiness and fussiness of their babies due to what they have eaten affecting said baby. What world do you live?

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I was bottlefed. So were my two older sisters and my younger brother. We range in age from 18-33. None of us ever had any problems and we're all perfectly healthy. All this fuss is insane. I intend to try to breastfeed if and when the time comes but if it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out and I'm not going to unnecessarily fret over "yucky" formula when it did me absolutely no harm. Just my 2 cents...

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@jesustitts Donor milk is only by perscription. The baby's doctor has to actually recommend the baby get donor milk. And it usually goes to babies with medical conditions. A baby who has a heart defect is in serious need of donor milk, and a baby who is perfectly healthy, can wait to have breastmilk till the mother produces enough to feed the baby. My son had formula for the first few days, but they always mixed my colostrum in with it. I'm fortunate enough that I can get 16 2.5oz bottles a day

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Had same production issues with first child, have a second one now and I can breast feed her. It's weird. She also gets formula since I supplement cause I produce a small amount. I agree the lactation consultants are no help at all cause its all "this is better, try harder, formula is bad". I decided screw them with my first. I started doing what was less stressful for me and her.

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I think most of you need to back with the talk of 'high horses'. It was her opinion that she find it 'yucky'... Leave it at that. The first time I had to use it, I got curious and smelled it. It was terrible and I about vomit to the scent. It is not a pleasurable smell, including her dirty diapers smelling bad after drinking it for a month while I worked. Before, where she was only fed just breast milk it smelt like butter popcorn ( since breast milk is sweeter than formula). After having for

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By the way, you do not need a doctor's note to get donor milk. You can go research a Facebook page that is call Eats on Feets for each state that has hundreds of mothers sharing/donating breast milk to mothers in need. If you want them too, you can their milk tested. I had known some mothers that I trusted and was able to receive good amount of donor milk to leave my daughter while I worked. I am a single parent... So, I can't quit.

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Ok. I had to create an account just to reply to this whole discussion. First off, I breast and formula fed both my babies. Only 1 month for the first and 6 for the second. No one has to right to comment about my choices or judge except for me. And I believe that this is why everyone is so mad at jesustitts. She judges. She says she doesn't, yet she does. And because she is a breast feeding nazi. We all agree that breastfeeding is better for babies. That has been stated. But for whatever reasons

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